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    Craigb,
    The advantages are given here:
    http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...,43838&p=31185

    I can vouch for the fact that they are well worth getting.

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    If I have read the postage figures correctly, the we're looking at $305 USD (about $400 AUD) for the pallet of 30 clamps to Melbourne.

    So actual price per clamp will depend on how many ways the postage is split.


    Consider me "watching with interest".

    Possible B set for me.
    Last edited by Ben from Vic.; 19th January 2005 at 01:29 PM. Reason: Fixing my AUD conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben from Vic.
    If I have read the postage figures correctly, the we're looking at $305 USD (about $450 AUD) for the pallet of 30 clamps to Melbourne.

    So actual price per clamp will depend on how many ways the postage is split.


    Consider me "watching with interest".

    Possible B set for me.
    Not quite - that's for 30 sets of 4 clamps, 120 clamps in total - and yes, the cost each will depend on the total number ordered in the end. I don't think 30 is too unrealistic though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigb
    So what's so great about these Bessey clamps anyway?

    I'm not bagging them, just curious.
    For a review by Dean go here http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...esseykbody.htm

    Cheers
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    When it comes to payment, anyone with an e mail account can set up a Paypal account. Might be the go. So long as the recipient can be trusted
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    Count me in for 2x B

    Just to raise a few more issues (not that I have any problem with any of them)

    1) As I am in Adelaide, has there been any consideration as to the postage costs between states? I expect this would be in the order of around $30 for two sets using Aus. Post.

    2) Packaging - are these things going to come prepacked in their respective packs (A or B). This will effect the postage costs as we can't expect the organisers to find 20-30 suitable boxes.

    3) Invoices ? Will anyone need them?

    4) Deposit ?. Peoples circumstances change and even though there maybe an order of 30+ units, when the time comes, nobody is under any obligation (except moral one) to go through with the payment. This does put those organising it under some stress. I think a deposit (all to be recieved before order is placed) would be a fair way to ensure people do the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp
    1) As I am in Adelaide, has there been any consideration as to the postage costs between states? I expect this would be in the order of around $30 for two sets using Aus. Post.
    I think I mentioned in an earlier post, but I'm figuring that if, like in Victoria, we have a number of people participating, then we ship to a central point in that state and everyone shares the cost as part of the total order. If someone needs shipment outside the main drop points, then they should pay that cost themselves.

    I can arrange shipment through Cope at a corporate rate so that's probably cheapest for this sort of thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp
    2) Packaging - are these things going to come prepacked in their respective packs (A or B). This will effect the postage costs as we can't expect the organisers to find 20-30 suitable boxes.
    Boxes shouldn't be too big a problem. The shipment would come into the warehouse of the company I work for in Sydney, and they have full packing facilities etc. Not that I really want to spend a week packing dozens of boxes to send out

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp
    3) Invoices ? Will anyone need them?
    If I do this it would be as an individual. I'll give everyone some paperwork detailing their order etc, but it won't be a tax invoice.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp
    4) Deposit ?. Peoples circumstances change and even though there maybe an order of 30+ units, when the time comes, nobody is under any obligation (except moral one) to go through with the payment. This does put those organising it under some stress. I think a deposit (all to be recieved before order is placed) would be a fair way to ensure people do the right thing.
    I'm not going to stump up the cash or take a big risk to do this - so if you want in you'll need to have sent your money to me by the time we need to pay for the order, which hopefully will be just before it ships, which is looking like March sometime.

    As far as commiting to the order goes, I've asked the question of Rob about how we do that. Ideally we can place an order now and then confirm final numbers of clamp sets & other items for the order near the time of shipment.

    Hopefully that will mean neither deposits or big risks are necessary, but that's up to Lee Valley and how they need things to be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrylF
    I'm not going to stump up the cash or take a big risk to do this - so if you want in you'll need to have sent your money to me by the time we need to pay for the order, which hopefully will be just before it ships, which is looking like March sometime.

    As far as commiting to the order goes, I've asked the question of Rob about how we do that. Ideally we can place an order now and then confirm final numbers of clamp sets & other items for the order near the time of shipment.

    Hopefully that will mean neither deposits or big risks are necessary, but that's up to Lee Valley and how they need things to be done.
    I have been thinking about how the transactions might be handled and think it is best to use what already exists.

    It would seem sensible to simply order the clamps through Lee Valley since they have the infrastructure to process the orders. The cost of the shipment to Austalia might be a variable at this stage but we certainly have an upper figure on this. I would hope that it would be possible for Lee Valley to collect the Austrtalian orders and simply ship them together to a single location here for distibution.

    We have a good idea of the shipping costs and the costs for the clamps. The only costs that are not well known will be the duty/GST. These will be applied once the goods hit Australia. If the clamps and shipping to Australia has been paid for by each person prior to shipment then there should not be any person carrying a large financial risk. Any duty/GST is relatively small by comparison and I'm sure will be paid given that collection of the clamps would presumably be dependent on this.

    The Lee Valley special is good value for us in Australia already and I want to make sure I have my order confirmed before the close-off date. I think the above process would confirm the order and would also reduce individual risks in all this.

    Just a few thoughts intended to help the process.

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    Not a bad idea from HAR616. If there was some way that payments could be made direct to Lee Valley, with a notation that they are a "U'BEAUT" order, then Rob could ship all together. Rob, of course, would have to be prepared to do the organising of the orders at the other end.

    That means no one has to wear the responsibility at this end. Seems to be a win/win to me.

    Dan

    PS Count me in for a B set. But don't tell MrsP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker
    I do not need any more clamps myself.

    Rocker
    Quick, somebody call the ambo, Rockers REAL Crook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanP
    Not a bad idea from HAR616. If there was some way that payments could be made direct to Lee Valley, with a notation that they are a "U'BEAUT" order, then Rob could ship all together. Rob, of course, would have to be prepared to do the organising of the orders at the other end.

    That means no one has to wear the responsibility at this end. Seems to be a win/win to me.

    Dan

    PS Count me in for a B set. But don't tell MrsP
    Hi Dan -

    We can certainly do that (just finished emailing the same suggestion to Darryl)... someone has to co-ordinate down there though... but it's straightforward for us to consolidate a bunch of orders... what we can't do is distribute them once they hit land. We can have 'em all individually packed and addressed though....and it doesn't have to be just clamps - though they are already packed in sets in a shipping carton - any other products would have to go in a second box (per person) - but again, we can handle all of that...

    Cheers -

    Rob

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    I'm in too, for 2x"B"'s. I hope everyone realises that the goods won't hit these sunny shores for 3 months after they are paid for & then ship from Canada, which is looking like a JUNE arrival date, just b4 the Sydney Wood Show. Plus any delays getting them thru' Customs etc, plus final delivery delays.

    Another thing just hit me - what about insurance? Just in case someone decides to send them to Austria instead of Australia, or off loads them in Port Moresby, never to be seen again......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsrlee

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    Another thing just hit me - what about insurance? Just in case someone decides to send them to Austria instead of Australia, or off loads them in Port Moresby, never to be seen again......
    Hi -

    No worries there...our insurance will cover them until they hit the port...

    Cheers -

    Rob

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    OK, looks like we have a viable plan then

    You can place your orders directly with Lee Valley for the clamp sets and anything else you need. The cut off dates are:

    Clamp sets: 29th Jan
    Other items: 28th Feb (may change if clamp stocks arrive early)

    Your credit card will not be charged until the goods are shipped - so there's some time to save the pennies and no reason not to order now You'll be paying Lee Valley direct for only the cost of your goods (no freight).

    Shipment should be mid March depending on arrival of stocks.
    Approximate shipping time is 3-5 weeks, though we will be able to confirm further down the track.
    Customs clearance should not be too much of an issue - ideally 2-3 days but up to a week.

    The costs for the freight etc will be approximately:
    Around US$305 for freight
    Around A$110 for documentation and local delivery
    2-5% of total order value (inc freight) in duty (if charged)
    10% of total order value in GST
    Plus at least 1 drop shipment to Vic (if enough people from QLD order another there) TBC

    Once we have a complete list of the orders (beginning March), the final allocation of shipping & other costs can be worked out and I'll contact everyone. I'll be paying those costs - so obviously I'd appreciate it if you all can send your money to me promptly once I let you know how much

    Distribution this end:
    NSW residents can pick up from me on the Central Coast, and we will most likely organise another pickup point in Sydney as well.
    Vic residents can pick up from a central point in Melbourne area (TBA)
    If enough people order from any of the other states we will organise drop shipments there as well.
    Outside that, you will be paying a local freight cost, most likely best option is Cope, which I can organise at a corporate rate.

    This is a great opportunity to get some of the very best quality cabinet clamps available at a cost you won't come close to again. It's also a great opportunity to order some of the other great stuff that Lee Valley carry and get it shipped to you at a very reasonable cost - particularly those things that are heavy or bulky that you normally wouldn't be able to afford the freight on.
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    Good plan

    What is the secret password we whisper to the bloke on the door so he knows that we were sent by Daryl?
    Or to put it a little more clearly how do we indicate to Rob that this order is to be cost only and shipped with the UBeaut stuff?
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