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Thread: A Block Plane dilemma
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8th April 2013, 04:24 PM #31
FF - I think you put it particularly well - in terms of rotation of the bed orientation to the left in the base plane of the plane.
Also it is pretty funny that guys that just want to plane wood will be screaming and kicking cats at this discussion
I was picturing it differently, but this stupid 2cent modelling convinces (me at least) that rotation of the bed slope sideways is equivalent to rotation (roll) of the bed along its forward axis.
(screwdriver is the forward direction)
skew bed 003.jpg skew bed 002.jpg
In any case, as I understand it, it seems that your cutting edge still lies in the plane of the base? - hence the uniform shaving?
So it is as if (in a sense) the side wall of the plane has stopped the bed of your plane from rotating around further?
I hadn't thought about shaping the moving section to match, but I thought you could steal from the Veritas reference. If not a grub screw on the RHS to help locate your blade, why not an oversize blob of epoxy on the RHS wall that you can trim away until it puts your blade in just the right orientation each time.
(Or regrind the blade to match the skew)
Have fun.
Paul
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8th April 2013, 04:37 PM #32
Well I think I may have it wired Paul. See how there's no gap (or a poofteenth at best) on the left? It's the same story up the butt end of the blade on the right. So, I believe that I just have to set it at max skew and may just a tiny tap, and that's my reference point - which is what I've been seeking. Trying to remember how much out of parallel (in error) to set it was giving me the heebie jeebies.
And I think that N...N...Nick's suggestion of making the front of the mouth parallel, leave the back alone, will work well. If it doesn't then Tony (NCA) may have to duck when he arrives on the 5th. Unless of course he has some lubbly jubbly timber under his wing for me, or some wiring diagrams for my Barn, or maybe one of his spare block planes, or.... Jeez the choices are endless.
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8th April 2013, 08:06 PM #33
No ducking necessary. My cat like, ninja reflexes will allow me to pluck the plane from the air and place it gently on the freebie table for a deserving woodworker to rat it for parts.
Those were the droids I was looking for.
https://autoblastgates.com.au
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8th April 2013, 08:25 PM #34
Err, freebie table? Not while I'm still walking pal.
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8th April 2013, 10:46 PM #35
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8th April 2013, 10:50 PM #36
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12th April 2013, 09:08 PM #37
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12th April 2013, 09:38 PM #38
You may well be right Ian, although I think it's not so much "worry" as "retain" .
Anyway the dilemma was the setting of it, and thanks to all the participants/hasslers it made me do a few things, and find that the setting is actually pretty easy (I just couldn't handle it being so far out of whack, and so never went that far).
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16th April 2013, 09:58 PM #39
A Block Plane dilemma
I though you said on your hourly rate wrapping a plane blade in cardboard wasn't cost effective... You could have had a solid gold, vintage, in it's original box ANYTHING! by now.
...I'll just make the other bits smaller.
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16th April 2013, 10:39 PM #40
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18th April 2013, 07:11 PM #41Rank Beginner
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Why not just put it in the oven?
Cheers,
Eddie
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18th April 2013, 08:22 PM #42
11 days late
This is my woodriver low angle block plane that came via the normal australian trade route
Note how the mouth is square here:
IMG_0414.jpg
Here:
IMG_0416.JPG
and here:
IMG_0417.JPG
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18th April 2013, 08:41 PM #43
Huh! Anyone can have one of them!
I reckon that the fella in China sent out working seconds actually. Apparently he offered a 10% discount without being asked - that's deeply suspicious, esp from China!
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20th May 2013, 05:10 PM #44
no math needed. set the blade slightly out the mouth with the adjuster in the middle. now lap the sole until the blade is flush. regrind the bevel following the new leading edge. now file the front of the mouth parallel that. use it, and never, ever approach that plane with a square in hand again.
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20th May 2013, 06:39 PM #45
Several ways to skin a cat bridger, and that's one of them. It is, however, the most labour intensive! It'd take bloody ages to grind the sole down, and in the mean time, it'd grind the soul down. Furthermore, I think that having the whole body that far out of whack would disturb me even more than the current fix!
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