5th Sep 2019, 10:01 PM #1
Broken Stanley No. 1 Worth Anything
Today I walked into a second hand shop.
While rummaging through the junk I came across a Stanley No. 1
The one side of the casting is broken off and the rosewood tote is badly broken and the lever cap is damaged it looks like it was badly dropped.
The person selling it has no clue what it is and was asking $15 for it.
Is it worth buying? For parts or repair?
5th Sep 2019, 10:15 PM #2
Probably not repairable, but the iron, cap iron and front knob (if undamaged) would each fetch three or four times the asking price for the whole plane.A thief stole my anti-depressants. I hope heís happy now.
5th Sep 2019, 10:21 PM #3Furniture maker and machine doctor
- Join Date
- Aug 2008
I'd pay $15 for it and ebay the salvageable parts, I reckon repairing is probably more effort than it's worth
5th Sep 2019, 10:23 PM #4
Yes its worth buying for that price !!!!! Rush back and get it ASAP.
In good nick their $1000 or more I think . Parts have got to be worth a lot more than $15.
Even if its to much effort to sell parts Id be having a broken no 1 on the shelf for comparison at $15 any day .
You could put it up for sale on forum or ebay and see what happens .
6th Sep 2019, 04:34 AM #5
Thanks I will go and pick it up
6th Sep 2019, 05:18 AM #6
Broken Record.Gatherer of rusty
6th Sep 2019, 08:27 AM #7
I had a pre-lateral adjuster #4 with half a side hump missing like your #2, Vann. It worked fine for me as a scrub plane for many years and is still doing duty in that line for a friend.
Sad to hear of these things being chucked out, at least keep them for parts! There always seems to be a need for bits & pieces...
6th Sep 2019, 12:20 PM #8
Hi Ian. If I recall correctly, it's you that has a beautiful Record No.02ss
But I'm not afraid to use a damaged/repaired plane. These are my 'go to' bench planes. Note that both the Records have damage, yet the Record No.04ss is probably my favourite plane (it's a WW2 era "warfinish" plane).
I have much better (unfettled) Record planes in storage - to do up when I have time. But there's no need, as these do what I want.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rusty
6th Sep 2019, 06:29 PM #9
7th Sep 2019, 11:50 AM #10Woodworking mechanic
- Join Date
- Jan 2014
- Sydney Upper North Shore
Just saw a Stanley No. 1 frog for sale for $335.
Buy it and sell the good bits.
7th Sep 2019, 06:18 PM #11
Seriously though, these still go for a fair amount of coin on Fleabay so if I canít insult you enough to earn it outright then why not dispose of it that way? Or put it on the Marketplace for a desultory price coupled with the most stinging obscenity allowable under the Forum rules?A thief stole my anti-depressants. I hope heís happy now.
8th Sep 2019, 10:36 AM #12
As a project it is easy to superglue thin ply to the undamaged side and base plus top of where the frog bolts on for machining. The broken side can be fixed with ply and glue also. Contraction would be neglible.
There are still foundrys operating in your area so a one off in Brass or gunmetal is possible.
You don’t have to replicate the obscure Stanley threads and the matching is not a big deal.
The main input is your time, I cast up a few Bedrock bases from similarly damaged finds well before they started reproducing them in Canada and US and now China.
I never did finish them but the foundry course required a stream of patterns for you to mould and pour.
They weren’t too keen on the old taps I planned to melt as one can never be sure all the H2O in out of them.
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
20th Sep 2019, 06:25 PM #13
Okay got around to going back to the second hand store and picked up the No. 1.
The body has no stamps, dates, or patents on it. I can only tell that it is a Stanley by
Stanley rule & level Co. New Britain Conn U.S.A. stamped on the blade which looks almost unused.
Here are some photos;
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I am not a tool collector nor would I have any use for this thing. So I will strip it give it a gentle clean with kero nothing more then I will sell it for parts.
20th Sep 2019, 06:48 PM #14
Something's not right, TS...
For starters, the #1 never had a lateral adjuster lever. Second, the brass adjuster wheel is concave at the back where it should be solid. (see Patrick Leach's description).
Surely a frog from a #2 couldn't be grafted onto the body of a #1? Do you by chance have a #2 instead? Only late model #2s were marked "Bailey" according to Patrick, the early ones were cleanskins like the #1. He advises having a tape measure with you when deciding what number plane you've got. I can't tell how big it is from the photo, but a quick measurement or two will clarify things (or maybe deepen the mystery....)
20th Sep 2019, 07:18 PM #15
What Ian said not a #1 no lateral lever for the blade.The #1 I have is prewar even at that latter stage in their development there was no lateral lever.Johnno
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