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14th April 2006, 01:56 AM #1
Cabinet scraper or scraper plane?
Just wondering whether the price of a scraper plane [like a #112] is money well spent. I see the Kunz at c/tec for $195.00 and veritas for a whole lot more. The cabinet scraper [like an old #80] is a lot cheaper. Any comments??
I use a bit of curly maple which is hard and hopeless to finish with a #4 smoother. It's either knuckle burning with a scraper or lots of sandpaper.ray c
dunno what's more fun, buyin' the tools or usin' em'
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14th April 2006, 02:43 AM #2
I have a homebrew scraper plane, and I have used it once.
That time, just made life easy it did. I had to clean up some angry red oak, and it just did it. No mess, no fuss.
But it's kind of a one-hit wonder. It will only scrape flat things, and larger ones at that. I honestly thing a cabinet scraper
would be more useful overall.
But that's just me.
BTW, if you go for the plane, I'd go for an LV. Mine is a woody copy, and it's very nice to use with all the features...
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14th April 2006, 02:48 AM #3
Hi Ray,
I use card [hand-held] scrapers most. But there are woods I work with that both the #80 type and the scraper plane are invaluable to me and get a lot of use.
The LV scraper plane is the best of the lot because you can use the thin blade it its best advantage of introducing a bow to it for localized scraping or the thick blade for larger, flat areas.
Take care, Mike
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14th April 2006, 11:36 AM #4
I'm with MikeW - card scrapers are my mainstay after I've gone as ar as I can with smoothers, just to clean up those few recalcitrant spots. But I have a #80, which at times is worth it's weight in gold. Have often thought about a longer version like the 112, but would use it so rarely, and there are other tools I'd rather acquire with any spare $$s, first. The 80 is capable of pretty fine work with the blade well-sharpened, and if dealing with any sizeable area, my pinkies sure appreciate it!
Cheers,IW
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14th April 2006, 02:33 PM #5Originally Posted by MikeWray c
dunno what's more fun, buyin' the tools or usin' em'
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14th April 2006, 02:55 PM #6
Lee Valley, maker of Veritas tools in Canada, Ray.
Cheers................Sean
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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14th April 2006, 03:36 PM #7Originally Posted by old_picker
But not all was lost thanks to Sean.
If you are new to the whole scrapers thing, I suggest beginning with the card scrapers. Learn to sharpen and turn the hook for effective cutting.
Phil Lowe shows how here:
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00007.asp?
Another good article:
http://www.woodzone.com/articles/scrapers/
And another:
http://www.brendlers.net/oldtools/scraping/scraper.htm
Take care, Mike
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14th April 2006, 05:04 PM #8
There is also a scraper holder so you don't get hot fingers, never used one and endure the heat and have a break every so often until things cool off a bit.
Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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14th April 2006, 06:27 PM #9
Currently using a card scraper but I think the steel is a bit heavy.
I am going to buy a set from c/tec plus a LV or kunz cabinet scraper.
thanks fr the guidanceray c
dunno what's more fun, buyin' the tools or usin' em'
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14th April 2006, 06:51 PM #10Originally Posted by Iain
Anyway - real men don't mind the burnt fingers - we relish the pain!
Cheers,IW
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14th April 2006, 06:59 PM #11
Hi Ray,
I have both the Lee Valley card holder and the cabinet scraper (and a scraper plane to boot ). I'd suggest going for the card holder first ( http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,310&p=32669) - the LV one - and see how you go. LV are a whole world apart in quality than Kunz IMO.
You migh also want to consider the an LV burnisher (either the http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...310,41070&ap=1 or the http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...310,41070&ap=1)
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14th April 2006, 07:05 PM #12
Gidday
For me a card scraper is the go ...................... once you know how to set them up you won't stop reaching for one.
I reckon there the best tool in the shop!!!
You can leave all the talk about burn't fingers n thumbs behind by learning to pull the scraper towards you get into the habbit of doing this early believe me its hard if you learn't how to use one by pushing.
REgards LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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14th April 2006, 07:52 PM #13
Best cabinet scraper I've got was originally a scraper blade for one of those floor scrapers. Really thick steel. Once I squared, polished and put a regular hook on it, it works far better than my thin, bendy card scrapers. The edge stays on longer and I seem to get a wider scrape, as whilst it does bend, not much compared to the others. Still get lovely thin shavings.
The thin, bendy ones are now confined to tight corners and concave/vex surfaces.
Never owned a scraper plane tho, maybe it should go on the list?Bodgy
"Is it not enough simply to be able to appreciate the beauty of the garden without it being necessary to believe that there are faeries at the bottom of it? " Douglas Adams
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14th April 2006, 07:54 PM #14
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14th April 2006, 08:14 PM #15
Toughen up Alex, get some callouses mate.
Bodgy
"Is it not enough simply to be able to appreciate the beauty of the garden without it being necessary to believe that there are faeries at the bottom of it? " Douglas Adams
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