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27th August 2009, 07:46 PM #1
Chisel Sizes
Hi All,
Apart from the average chisel sizes, what other chisel sizes does everyone use?
Recommended Brands for unusual sizes?
My question is to help me pick the sizes of chisels I will need later on when (hopefully) completing my Diploma of Art: Furniture Design.
Thank you to all,
Harlan"If you can't kill a zombie with it, it ain't a weapon."
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27th August 2009, 09:02 PM #2
Most chisels to this day move up in regular imperial increments.
However the tolerances between old makers is not high, the width of two 1/4" chisels can vary between makers.
The only non common chisel size, common in that you can get good old chisels in that size is a 1/8", and smaller. 1/4", 3/8", 1" chisels are relatively common. Anything over 1" becomes progressively harder to find.
You can do most your work with a 3 mm, 6 mm, 12 mm, 20 mm, and 25 mm chisels. I tend to like a 1 1/4" chisel is one of my favorites.
Harold and Saxon and Blue Spruce Toolworks can make you any chisels width that you like for a price.
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27th August 2009, 09:12 PM #3
Thanks mate,
I was intending to either get a set of six made up from Harold & Saxon or buy a set from Lie Neilson but would like to keep the business withing Australia if I can. Maybe even get a better product some would argue?
Do you ever find yourself needing sizes like 7mm? or even 13mm?
I would love to have two sets that go up in increments of 2mm. Starting at 2mm through to 20mm then another up to 30mm. Just a dream I have 15 chisels isn't so bad...."If you can't kill a zombie with it, it ain't a weapon."
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27th August 2009, 09:25 PM #4
Don't bother with the inferior A2 Lie-Nielsen chisels, buy a H&S set.
I'd offer to make you a set but Trent deserves the business
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27th August 2009, 09:27 PM #5
Lie Nielsen chisels inferior? That is a bit misleading, they are very good chisels that may not be as good as H&S but they are still excellent chisels.
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27th August 2009, 09:39 PM #6
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27th August 2009, 09:57 PM #7
By what do you base that analogy on?
Have you personally used and compared both brands?
I'm not being defensive because I like and own L&N there are enough folk who will do that.
I'd like to know how you draw that conclusion.
I have 2 sets of Lie Nielsen Bevel & Mortise socket chisels and I have no problems with them in use or function.
In saying that I have also ordered a H&S set back in February well before I bought the L&N sets.
I WILL be interested in comparing the two however it is a broad statement to make unless its a done thing!!
CheersJohnno
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27th August 2009, 10:10 PM #8
They're great chisels, I'm just rather pro-Australian when it comes to tools. I didn't mean that LN chisels (or any of their products) are no good, I've used LN chisels and planes before and I can say that they're top notch.
LN are A2, H&S are Cryo treated M2
LN are American, H&S are Aussie
LN have small handles, H&S have man size handles made from Brass and Australian Timbers
LN cost $104 each, H&S cost $130 each
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27th August 2009, 10:23 PM #9I'm just rather pro-Australian when it comes to tools
We, here in Australia have some very high quality tool makers and some very poor tool makers, many of which are imports.
Many of the older tools produced here are of a high quality, as are those produced today.
There is not much price difference and if it came down to that, I would buy, as Andrew said, Australian to keep the business here.
I've used LN chisels and planes before and I can say that they're top notch.
LN have small handles, H&S have man size handles made from Brass and Australian Timbers"If you can't kill a zombie with it, it ain't a weapon."
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27th August 2009, 10:30 PM #10I have 2 sets of Lie Nielsen Bevel & Mortise socket chisels and I have no problems with them in use or function.
In saying that I have also ordered a H&S set back in February well before I bought the L&N sets.
I WILL be interested in comparing the two however it is a broad statement to make unless its a done thing!!
I reckon they are a little small. Could make some new handles I suppose.
We had a rather large, mean looking mother come into work the other day, chopping mortice's for a workbench with the mortise chisels from Lie Neilson, he was poundding the CRAP out of them, ended up splitting the handle on one of them. Do you find the handles to be weak? As well, it needed honing after about 15 mins of chopping. Do both your bevel and mortise hold an edge when using on Australian Hardwoods.
Thanks,
Harlan"If you can't kill a zombie with it, it ain't a weapon."
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27th August 2009, 10:48 PM #11
I've been using the LN mortising chisels on some pretty tough timber for the last few months and they have behaved very well. Cutting has been no problem at all, especially after honing a slightly steeper angle on them. They keep an edge well. The only issue I've had is a handle that likes to come loose that I need to re-seat. Longer term I'd like to make some slightly longer handles and, IMHO, if I were to make chisels like these I'd prefer a slightly deeper socket.
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27th August 2009, 10:50 PM #12
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28th August 2009, 01:03 AM #13Senior Member
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Whilst on sizes (and size isn't everything) would anyone of the forum know of the number of sizes that Titan made their firmer chisels in? I ask this because I have two nominally 1/4" firmers. I say nominally 1/4" because one is a 1/4 but the other appears to be 9/32". Have I got a chisel that's met an impact it shouldn't have and is squashed a bit at the pointy end or did Titan indeed make chisels with such subtle differences between them?
Cheerio,
Virg.
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28th August 2009, 10:18 AM #14
I gotta say that perhaps LN did not have OZ timbers in mind when they produced these chisels because I do endorse what Groggy has said in their use.
Admittedly the handles could do with some reconfiguring in design but there is nothing to stop any of us having the handles replaced with OZ made timber handles being a socket fit.
As Groggy said they do hold an edge well and to date I have been relatively pleased with the cut on Sheoak and Jarrah that I predominately use.
For me it may well be chalk & cheese comparing the two but they will suffice at least in the interim until Trent lets me have my chisels he is in the process of producing.
CheersJohnno
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28th August 2009, 01:10 PM #15Member
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Horse for courses really.
I rarely use a mallet with my LN's but so far they've held up wonderfully against jarrah and karri. I have large hands and I find the handles on them perfect, espescially for delicate trimming/paring.
If I need to get more aggressive I use my Kirschens.
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