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    Default Choosing a saw set?

    Hi guys,
    I've decided to take the plunge and try my own sharpening/setting for my saws, and I'll need a set. Are they all 'much of a muchness', or are there certain ones to avoid/gravitate towards? Seems that like everything, you can get them for dirt cheap or quite expensive.
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    Default Saw Setter

    Eclipse No.77....... Amen

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    There's a discussion here that might help:
    "http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=452924"

    and here:
    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...d.php?p=472792

    Sawsets do take a bit of getting used to, no matter what model you choose. I found I overset my saws at first (which seems to be a common fault from others I've spoken to). The other problem I had is getting the set consistent on both sides. You'd think it should happen automatically, but must be the way I hold the saw & set, so that one side gets slightly more set than the other. The result is an alarming curve in your saw!

    But it is a good skill to get under your belt - my ambition is to be as good as my dad was, & I've still got a long way to go!

    Cheers,
    IW

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    Hi

    I am also in the process of starting on the saw sharpening journey.

    The below link is a video from the Fine Woodworking site with Chris Gochnour showing how to sharpen a dovetail saw. On that page there is also a link to another short video called the Saw Sharpening Toolkit.

    http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=24976

    Chris uses a Somax saw set, which is a copy of the Eclipse 77. Somax comes in two sizes for different teeth sizes. The blue one is for fine teeth, and from what I've read elsewhere it is one of the few that can really give a fine set straight out of the box, as opposed to having to file down the hammer on some older sets. Lee Valley stock it, as does The Wood Works here in oz. It can be found here.

    http://www.thewoodworks.com.au/site/...tml&pg=1001788

    I figured if it was good enough for Chris it was good enough for me. I'll be giving it a test run on a old gents saw as soon as i clean up the inside jaws of the saw vice I just made. I also scored an Eclipse 77 in a job lot on ebay (which was for jewellery equipment, so the saw set was a bonus!) and I'm going to try that out on my panel saw.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers
    Tom

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    Gday Will.. good question

    I also use a 77 as do the only other two chaps irl that I know of who sharpen saws.

    I hope that more of our darksiders chime in here and share what they use.. should be an interesting thread.

    The main plus with the 77 as far as I'm concerned is that once you decide you need one you should have about half a dozen of them within a month or so. They pop up everywhere.
    Best regards, Luban

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    Funny you should say that, I just picked one up from the Tool Exchange!
    Now there's one thing I don't get: accumulation of saw sets. I dig the collection of saws, planes, chisels of course because every one is for a different purpose, but saw sets? What am I missing here?
    Cheers
    Will

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    Hi Will,

    I find the blue somax works well on small teeth, The Eclipse 77 with a re-ground plunger works well too.

    I have a couple of Stanley's the 42X is ok but the 42W is of little use.

    I still have to use a texta to mark every second tooth so I know which one goes which way!


    Regards
    Ray

    TFWW sells the Blue Somax .

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    I have used an Eclipse 77 for 50 years. It is still going strong. Eclipse have a plastic version, avoid it like the plaque, get the metal version, the plastic one flexes too much.
    Jim
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    I have about 6 or 7 saw sets , the one I use the most is the Stanley 42X .

    Kev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsal View Post
    Now there's one thing I don't get: accumulation of saw sets. I dig the collection of saws, planes, chisels of course because every one is for a different purpose, but saw sets? What am I missing here?
    Cheers
    Will
    It really just boils down to the fact that I can never say no to a $1 sawset so they accumulate.

    the things seem to crop us at every garage sale and in every box I've ever bought at auction. hell, I picked up a box of sewing gear at auction last moth because I'd spotted an old pair of tailors scissors that I knew the better half would fancy and there was a Morrill sawset in amongst the pins and detritus.
    My guess is that most people have no idea what they are for so they tend to end up in all sorts of places, perhaps it had been debated over lamingtons and declared a zipper adjuster.

    What I should have added to my first post was an offer to send you a 77 from the pile.
    I'll leave the offer on the table anyway.. just in case you want to get a head start on your sawset collection
    Best regards, Luban

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    That's most kind Luban, but I've already sent the payment to Stu at the Tool Exchange so it won't be necessary....yet... Thanks for the offer though!
    When it comes to filing down the hammer for smaller teeth, does that render it unsuitable for larger teeth? I'll probably end up sharpening and setting the whole gamut from dovetail saws to panel saws. (my main concern at the moment is smaller backsaws)
    Cheers
    Will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow6 View Post
    What I should have added to my first post was an offer to send you a 77 from the pile.
    I'll leave the offer on the table anyway.. just in case you want to get a head start on your sawset collection
    Hi Slow
    Given Will has his 77, could I put up my hand for it? I was using a pair of small pliers on my saw last weekend and thought there must be a better way.....

    I could pm you my contact details if OK and happy to discuss the details re postage and price.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGuppy View Post
    Hi Slow
    Given Will has his 77, could I put up my hand for it? I was using a pair of small pliers on my saw last weekend and thought there must be a better way.....

    I could pm you my contact details if OK and happy to discuss the details re postage and price.

    Cheers
    Certainly.. just pm me your postal details and I'll pop one in an envelope for you on monday.
    Don't worry about postage.. what goes around comes around on these forums
    Best regards, Luban

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    Hi Luben

    Thanks mate, much appreciated.
    PM sent.
    Cheers

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    More than welcome mate


    Quote Originally Posted by Woodlee View Post
    I have about 6 or 7 saw sets , the one I use the most is the Stanley 42X .

    Kev.
    Hi Kev.. what is it about the 42X that makes it your go to?
    Best regards, Luban

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