Thread: F-clamp restoration

Originally Posted by auscab

59,048 ?

I used to work with a deaf guy so learned sign language 40 years ago. I remember how to sign up to 999,000 using only one hand but forget what 1,000,000 is now. It has no limit.

Edit. There is no limit to counting on one hand and the deaf worked out a system for it. Probably a long time ago but I don't know the history of that.

Rob,
I have to ask, do deaf people actually "count" on their fingers to numbers >1,000,000 or do they use their hands to "say" those numbers in AusLan?

i.e. do they count the digits 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, etc
or do they sign the numbers one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, etc

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Originally Posted by GraemeCook

And 360 is divisible by both 60 and by 12. It is also divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, ... etc. In fact by most numbers except for a few pesky exceptions such as 7, 11, 13, 17.

There are 360 degrees in a circle and this ease of divisibility is probably the reason that navigation has resisted decimalisation. There have been a few attempts, usually based on 100 degrees to the quadrant or 100 degrees to the circle. All have disappeared with little trace.

the units we were taught when we were studied surveying at Uni over 40 years ago -- RIP Prof. Phil Jones -- were degrees, minutes and seconds AND Grads -- 400 Grads equals 360 degrees.
I don't fully recall what Grads were used for, but I believe the military use some version of Grads to express deflection at a range of 1000m.

Perhaps, a real surveyor -- we were only educated to a standard to perform engineering surveys, real surveyors had to do additional courses so they could become Registered Surveyors -- can tell us.

Originally Posted by ian

Rob,
I have to ask, do deaf people actually "count" on their fingers to numbers >1,000,000 or do they use their hands to "say" those numbers in AusLan?

i.e. do they count the digits 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, etc
or do they sign the numbers one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, etc

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They just count to themselves the same as we all do I'm sure Ian. And if they need fingers to keep track as an aid then fingers come in handy same as we do. They have a greater range to use though I suppose. And if its expressing a number to someone else then its fingers instead of the tongue obviously.

It is Auslan that I was shown to use. One doesn't use the Auslan letters to spell out the numbers if that's what you mean, but one could if one wanted to. The numbers are expressed with the signs starting with what we know , 1 to 5 on one hand but its extended from that with more signs to 10. Add a shake to the sign for the same 1 to 10 for the teens basically, except 11 and 12. Auslan has single action sign meanings for many things as well as the alphabet so some of those single action signs are for the numbers like Hundred, Thousand, Million and Billion . I just looked up the Million and Billion and its just the sign for M or a B after the number applied. Where the Hundred single action sign is a flat hand moved under the chin. Thousand is a finger swiped down. You'd be better off looking at these than trying to figure out what I'm saying here Ian .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-UZKcBIJe0



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