Thread: Cool New Hand Tool Game - Play Here

OK - no takers.....?
Well here's an easy one.
Won't last long I'm sure.
Good luck.
SG

Hello Mr Scribble,

Don't really know, but perhaps one of them is not a Sargent, what about the third from
the right?

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by RayG

Hello Mr Scribble,

Don't really know, but perhaps one of them is not a Sargent, what about the third from
the right?

Regards
Ray

Hi Ray,
Nice try, but they are all Sargents.
Have another go.
SG

The lever on the lever cap on the far left looks like a home made replacement?

Originally Posted by Slow6

The lever on the lever cap on the far left looks like a home made replacement?

You are right about the home made lever on the lever cap Luban.
However it is one of a few minor differences among the planes.
There is a major difference to be spotted with just one of them.
Have a closer look.
SG

ooooooh.. I didn't look at the first photo.

far right (from the rear photo #1) is a shaws patent. Veeeeeeeeery nice plane

Always wanted one of those.. lucky boy

Originally Posted by Slow6

ooooooh.. I didn't look at the first photo.

far right (from the rear photo #1) is a shaws patent. Veeeeeeeeery nice plane

Always wanted one of those.. lucky boy

OK we have a winner!
Yes the last one is a number 9 Shaws Patent and the difference is in the frog. That is why I took a shot of the backs.
All the other Sargents have no mechanical means of adjusting the frog forward or back like a Stanley. The frog is simply moved by hand.
The Shaws Patent does. These were only made between about 1910 - 1918.
Here are some close ups of the frog.
There are a few other minor differences as well. The 414 (Number 5 size) is a later plane than the others, the 415 (5 1/2) has a repaired tote - new spur, and a Carter blade, the 418 (6) has a replaced tote and the 424 (8) has the home made lever.
Your turn Luban.
Cheers
SG

mmmm... good lookin plane Tom.

is it designed to allow for frog adjustment without taking the blade out, or do you have to get to that single screw under the blade?

I'll sleep on it and take the camera back out to the shed tomorrow

Originally Posted by Slow6

mmmm... good lookin plane Tom.

is it designed to allow for frog adjustment without taking the blade out, or do you have to get to that single screw under the blade?

No it's not like a Bedrock in that respect.
The three screws all hold the frog firm, so off comes the blade for adjustment. However the frog can be adjusted easily forward and back with the adjusting screw in the same manner as that on the Stanley. Once the front screw is set, the frog can be positioned forward or back with the blade attached, by accessing the rear screws only. So like a Bedrock in this respect. All these other Sargents have an adjustable frog, but all the work is done with your fingers after loosening the two frog holding screws.
Cheers
SG

Thanks for that Tom.. I had always wondered about that particular beast.

Originally Posted by Slow6

ooooooh.. I didn't look at the first photo.

far right (from the rear photo #1) is a shaws patent. Veeeeeeeeery nice plane

Always wanted one of those.. lucky boy

SG & Slow6,
We were off the air for most of yesterday and last night, so I missed a chance at that one
In a collection of patented US planes, one of those is a must...and on my shelf there is a gaping hole where it should be sitting
There are just so many of these very elegant engineering solutions to getting around the patents already held or to improve the way to construct and adjust a plane. This is exactly the thing that got me interested in collecting planes.

Regards,
Peter

Nudge nudge.....
Luban you're up.
SG

Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum

Nudge nudge.....
Luban you're up.
SG

See, now you've done it I was just about to think of something really clever and you distracted me.


I'll need another three days now

bah... another day gone, honestly this week felt like it lasted for an hour and a half.

Anyone else want to have a go while I sort out the temporal flux phenomenon between the house and the shed?