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25th August 2021, 12:56 PM #16SENIOR MEMBER
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Hmm, do I make a mini or a maxi for my first dovetail plane?
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25th August 2021, 01:23 PM #17
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26th August 2021, 10:09 AM #19GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Ian. Loved the photo of your plane till. I think you need to speak to AWR about printing a poster of it (like the Studley tool chest one FWW did a while ago)
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26th August 2021, 09:07 PM #20
MA, I reckon Mr. Studley invented the tool chest equivalent of Rubik's cube! I tried really hard to make my tool cupboard so I can pull out any tool with one hand & not have to move anything else to get at it. I didn't quite succeed, there is another plane and the accessory bits for my 78 lurking under the ramp the #7 is sitting on, so it has to be moved to get at those, but everything else is easily accessed. The cost is a much bigger box than the Studley wonder (& no mother-of-pearl inlays, either)....
Actually, the editor of AWR has pics of my tool cupboard, but there hasn't been any mention of posters. I think mine is put in the shade by the effort of a bloke in New Zealand that was featured in the mag a few years ago - that really IS a work of art, whereas mine is only slightly tarted up by comparison....
Cheers,IW
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27th August 2021, 10:00 AM #21GOLD MEMBER
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I was talking more about what's in the plane till
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27th August 2021, 01:40 PM #22
OK, apologies, I leapt to the wrong conclusion. The pic of the plane section is only the top half of my tool "chest" (I call it a "cupboard" 'cos I think that's a more accurate description), there's a lot more stuff below & around them: Toolbox open red3.jpg Lower drawers rt.jpg
Those pics are more than 10 yrs old; it's been rearranged & modified (several times!) since then, but I think I've pretty much used up any possible justification for adding a new plane (or any other tool) - so I hope it stays as it is currently for the rest of my woodworking life...
If it's pics of planes you want to see, I do have one or two of those:
Rebates 2020.jpg
Infills 2020.jpg
Small planes.jpg
And if you think that's an excessive number of planes for anyone to have, I agree - a couple have found new homes since those pics were taken....
Cheers,IW
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27th August 2021, 02:25 PM #23GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks ian. You have brightened up my lockdown day! Are the drawer fronts bull oak? Hairy oak? Lace she oak? Lovely big blade on the thumbhole saw too
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27th August 2021, 07:29 PM #24
Well, nowadays it's commonly called "Silky oak", but when I wor a lad, Cardwellia sublimis, which is what the wood is, was called "Bull oak" by the locals (Atherton tablelands) to distinguish it from Grevillia robusta, which was the original "Silky oak". The wood came from a huge bank of drawers that housed geological specimens in the old Qld museum. The drawers were tossed out after they transferred the contents to new lodgings in a building close to where I was working at the time. I was appalled to see all that useful wood just left in the weather, & asked the blokes working away at them what was going to happen to the old drawers. I was told they were waiting to be picked up & dumped so I hopped in & harvested as much as I could before they were taken away. So that part of my tool cupboard is probably comfortably over 100 years old already. The carcase is made from scraps of N.G. Rosewood. I milled some billets a friend got via a roundabout way, & part of my reward was keeping the off-cuts...
CheersIW
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27th August 2021, 07:54 PM #25
Well, nowadays it's commonly called "Silky oak", but when I wor a lad, Cardwellia sublimis, which is what the wood is, was called "Bull oak" by the locals (Atherton tablelands) to distinguish it from Grevillia robusta, which was the original "Silky oak". The wood came from a huge bank of drawers that housed geological specimens in the old Qld museum. The drawers were tossed out after they transferred the contents to new lodgings in a building close to where I was working at the time. I was appalled to see all that useful wood just left in the weather, & asked the blokes working away at them what was going to happen to the old drawers. I was told they were waiting to be picked up & dumped so I hopped in & harvested as much as I could before they were taken away. So that part of my tool cupboard is probably comfortably over 100 years old already. The carcase is made from scraps of N.G. Rosewood. I milled some billets a friend got via a roundabout way, & part of my reward was keeping the off-cuts...
CheersIW
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27th August 2021, 09:33 PM #26GOLD MEMBER
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Love that story. I just finished making a little pencil case for one of my daughters from timber rescued from a recent kitchen demo and left evidence of a nail on the underside of the lid. Working through the options with other forumites we think it's Damar Minyak.
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27th August 2021, 10:21 PM #27Bushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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28th August 2021, 08:11 AM #28
Why, Paul, are you planning to start a milling business in Borneo??
Agathis is an interesting genus, it must be the most widespread of the "southern" conifers, extending from the Philippines through Indonesia, Nuigini, Australia & across the ditch to N.Z. The other extreme is the Wollemi pine, which hangs on in just one gully in the middle of Australia!
Only ever managed to get my hands on a few bits of Kauri. One thick board I got came from a very large old cupboard in the old Parkville vet lab when they started demolishing it after the new lab was built at Mickelham. I'm pretty sure it was N.Z. Kauri; very dense and planed to an almost pearlescent finish. There were some very large, very thick red cedar bench tops in a couple of rooms, too, but I left before they were pulled out & I suspect they went to the tip. Brings me to tears to think of it.....
Sounds like a fisherman's story (the biggest, bestest one that got away), doesn't it?
Cheers,IW
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28th August 2021, 04:26 PM #29
Ian
Milling business in Borneo? Probably not as my commercial milling days are well and truly over. It was more to do with "Britton" and a vague connection.
It looks as though the Agathis genus is part of the Araucaria family rather than the other way around. Wollemi's and Bunyas are the most well known of that family. The Wollemi is more extreme than even a single gulley as it it believed to be just one tree as it grows from underground tubers. However, I think they found another tree in a neighbouring gully. During the last round of bushfires a a watering system was established to protect the Wollemi! The world's oldest, and most primitive species of tree. I did once try to grow some. Despite the assertions it was easy to grow, they all died.
While I know of Kauri Pine I have never seen any and could not have told you the family name if my life depended on it. Fortunately, I have never been placed in that position.
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PaulBushmiller;
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28th August 2021, 07:23 PM #30
Paul, to be a boring pedant, the family name is Araucariaceae, which is in the major group Gymnosperms (Conifers, cycads and allies - the name means "naked seeds" and this group of plants preceded the flowering plants, which includes the broadleaf or 'hardwood' trees).
Genera in Araucariaceae:
Agathis
Araucaria
Columbea
Wollemia
The genus Columbea is an unknown to me, it's a Sth. American species with either a single species (C. braziliensis) or several - the taxonomists seem to be arguing about it. The others are very familiar to us. I think we have the most diverse populatio0n of the Arauacariacae, with 3 genera. Sth America only has a single species of Araucaria, as far as I can find out, plus the above mentioned Columbea, which I know nothing whatever about. I have seen examples of the "monkey puzzle tree as the Sth. American Araucaria is called - there are a few in botanic gardens here....
Cheers,
PS: How did we manage to segue from infill planes to a lesson in taxonomy??? You & I must be the masters of thread diversification!IW
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