Thread: For those from the DarkSide...........Come Forth!!!

Originally Posted by Wood Borer

A set of 9 LN chisels will be my next purchase.

Steve,

You are on the slippery slide now.

You getting the mortice chisels as well as the bevels WB?

Originally Posted by craigb

You getting the mortice chisels as well as the bevels WB?

Just the bevels on this occasion. Like Darren I don't get paid overtime.

Maybe a LV Med shoulder plane
A LV LA block plane.

And some more bits and pieces.

Originally Posted by Wood Borer

Just the bevels on this occasion. Like Darren I don't get paid overtime.

I thought LN only had 5 bevels. Have they expanded their range?

This is from the LN website Craig.

Yes I saw that after I posted.

I was obviously getting confused with the 5 "roll" set.

Actually I'd rather see them offer a 1" and 1 1/2" chisel than the 1/16th increments.

Perhaps they are on the drawing board?

I always try to make fine dovetails Craig! I know what you mean.

I have a set of Robert Sorby chisels which are fantastic which I will keep for good work and for doing fine jobs at other people's places.

The LN's I understand are the bees knees and with more intermediate sizes I expect them to be my everyday (every weekend ) chisels.

The Stanleys and Records I use for rough work (building etc) and the really old chisels I use for working on suspect recycled timber.

LN mortise chisels will be the next chisels after the LN Bevels.

A new shed, and then I must revisit that idea of "why do I go to work each day to be stressed by idiots?"

Jack wrote:

As soon as this order is processed I will be ordering from LV (gotta keep the price down, bloody customs):
Scrub plane, haven't decided on A2 or HCS blade yet, and the price just rose!
Scraping plane, I currently have the insert so this may suffice for a while,
And either the LA or BU Smoother, I haven't decided yet. I do like the fact that the BU blades are interchangeable with the Jack but you can shoot with the LA.
A bit of advice here please Derek

Regarding the A2 or HCS blade for the scrub - I spent a solid day of scrubbing with the HCS blade on hardwood and it was still sharp enough to cut. I have used the A2 but just not put enough time on it yet to determine just how much better it is (I do expect it to be more durable, and for scrubbing hardwoods it would be preferred).

Regarding scraping inserts, and for that matter scraper planes, I rarely use them these days. My smoothers tend to handle the difficult grain. A card scraper is quicker and easier, if needed.

Yes, one advantage of the BU Smoother is that it shares blades with the LA Jack and (still to be released) BU Jointer. But do not dismiss the LA Smoother. Keep in mind that the BU Smoother, superb as it is, is a dedicated smoother (you cannot use it on a shooting board) and it is a heavy plane. The LA Smoother is my preference for smaller boards, and it is more versatile in that it can be used on a shooting board as well. Note, however, that it has a smaller blade that is not shared by the other planes listed here (still, you only need two blades - one LA and one HA). So it may come down to the size of the work you predominantly do. And if you plan to get the LA Jack as well (which takes care of the shooting option). Oh, my head hurts - just get them all!

Ian wrote:

seriously consider a Colin Clenton square

I agree. They are expensive, however. Still, one of the pleasures in woodwork for me is being able to mark out with nice tools. I do not own a CC, but I will be leaving many hints at home around my birthday! An inexpensive alternative is the 4" Crown brass and rosewood copy (of the CC) I bought from Timbercon a few years ago. I have only had to adjust it once in 2 or 3 years. But my favourite square is a 6" Starrett double square (bought on eBay). This has a solid, precision feel.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by derekcohen

Regarding the A2 or HCS blade for the scrub - I spent a solid day of scrubbing with the HCS blade on hardwood and it was still sharp enough to cut. I have used the A2 but just not put enough time on it yet to determine just how much better it is (I do expect it to be more durable, and for scrubbing hardwoods it would be preferred).

My main concern with HCS over A2 is the possible difficulty in sharpening?
I guess I just have to weigh this against having a longer lasting edge. Bear in mind that I am lazy and if it is difficult to sharpen, I will probably put it off for longer, which will in turn make it more difficult to sharpen again

Originally Posted by derekcohen

Regarding scraping inserts, and for that matter scraper planes, I rarely use them these days. My smoothers tend to handle the difficult grain. A card scraper is quicker and easier, if needed.

Good point on the card scrapers. I do like the insert in a #4 but I think the extra heft in the #112 style (LV) would be handy.

Originally Posted by derekcohen

Yes, one advantage of the BU Smoother is that it shares blades with the LA Jack and (still to be released) BU Jointer. But do not dismiss the LA Smoother. Keep in mind that the BU Smoother, superb as it is, is a dedicated smoother (you cannot use it on a shooting board) and it is a heavy plane. The LA Smoother is my preference for smaller boards, and it is more versatile in that it can be used on a shooting board as well. Note, however, that it has a smaller blade that is not shared by the other planes listed here (still, you only need two blades - one LA and one HA). So it may come down to the size of the work you predominantly do. And if you plan to get the LA Jack as well (which takes care of the shooting option). Oh, my head hurts - just get them all!

I think "just get them all" is a good option. I will probably go with the BU as I allready have shooting covered with the jack which is on its way now, plus the jointer will be ordered as soon as possible
If I want a smaller smoother later I will get the LA too

Jack.

Originally Posted by ian

... as to what comes next... it'll be one or more of these......

Ian: I've got one of those. When I bought it, I thought I'd be using it all the time, but for some reason I hardly ever do. When I cut a darkside rebate I generally go for

or
.

As to my next darkside purchase, what I'd really like would be along the lines of

or
.
A Clenton square would be nice too, but hard to justify when I've already got an old Stanley nickel handled jobbie that works really well (even got the requisite white paint on it -- why is it always white?!?!)

Originally Posted by zenwood

When I cut a darkside rebate I generally go for
or

tick and tick

Originally Posted by zenwood

As to my next darkside purchase, what I'd really like would be along the lines of
.

Hey, I'm also lusting after one of those.

On the one hand a birthday is a once a year opportunity to purchase a tool without needing to pretend it's for a current project, on the other, deciding what to spend the birthday $ on can become a real chore.
Will I spend all the money on just one expensive tool or will I buy four or five less expensive ones ...

ian

You smut peddlers!

What do you mean by it? Eh?

Posting all these pornographic illustrations! You must know that there are tender young minds out there, innocently browsing what looks like a perfectly respectable website. And they are confronted by these lust-filled images!

Shame! Shame!

Originally Posted by Jack E

My main concern with HCS over A2 is the possible difficulty in sharpening?
I guess I just have to weigh this against having a longer lasting edge. Bear in mind that I am lazy and if it is difficult to sharpen, I will probably put it off for longer, which will in turn make it more difficult to sharpen again
Jack.

Hi Jack, then you may want to get the high carbon steel (HCS) instead of the A1 blades whenever possible.

Actually, though A1 is reputed to hold an edge longer (a claim I'm uncertain about) HCS is simply so much easier to sharpen.

Take care, Mike