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    Unhappy Derek: You wuz right and I wuz wr...wrrr...

    ong. BUT I was more wrong than you were right!

    We had a discussion some months ago about the wisdom of using non-slip rubber mats in tool drawers to prevent them slipping around, and you were saying that it may well promote rust.

    Indeed I had had no problems until I glued the mats down with some old Aquadhere. What transpired next beggars belief that I could do such a crazy thing! Before the glue was more than a minute dry I put the tools back in place. They were rusty the next day fer cryin' out loud!

    I mean, just exactly how dumb was that???

    I have since given the rubber a bit of a run over with Camellia oil, and all seems to be good, but it's been pretty dry up here for the last few months. I don't want to take the rubber out because it does its primary function really well, but nor do I want to take any chances with a couple of saws I purchased recently from IanW (and they are crackers!). I have introduced some Silica Gel sachets scattered around the drawers, and lifted the saws up onto timber blocks.

    Yup, keeping a very vigilant eye out!

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    Bret I knew not of other post but I have found that anti-slip stuff damn annoying it will stick to anything after a while. No idea why


    I was being given pro movie gear a while back it had been stored in its cases and in a bedroom cupboard all the special foam had adhered to the cameras, lens, and leaked into the cracks. It was all useless to costly to clean.

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    Cockroaches also like to eat it.
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    Ray, it's prolly just good old perishing after a few years. This type of rubber seems to have a good life - I've had it on the dashboard of cars for some time in full sun, and didn't go sticky.

    Cliff, the main roaches up here are natives, and are timber eaters. Just a little slower, and they don't fly AT you. Cats still like 'em though, and they still make that very satisfying "crack" under a shoe.
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    I'd say it was mainly the acidic fumes from the pva that caused the overnight rust. Steel hates that.

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    You may well be right there Mick. The glue was many years old, and had turned to a snot consistency, with a smell like silicon sealer - not unlike vinegar. Very odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mic-d View Post
    I'd say it was mainly the acidic fumes from the pva that caused the overnight rust. Steel hates that.
    And not forgetting the aqua in aquadhere.
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    Indeed not Jim, but i think it was too fast and aggressive for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Indeed not Jim, but i think it was too fast and aggressive for that.
    I was thinking of how quick rust is to start if you take it out of vinegar without drying and sealing.
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    Sorry about that Brett

    What you need to do is remove the rubber mats, then fill your drawers with saw dust, and plonk the tools on top of that.

    Hang a pyramid over the top, and they'll stay sharp as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Sorry about that Brett

    What you need to do is remove the rubber mats, then fill your drawers with saw dust, and plonk the tools on top of that.

    Hang a pyramid over the top, and they'll stay sharp as well.

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    Just noticed this thread. I have my chisels sitting blades down in a rack (not ideal, I know, but that's the way it is.) I put soul heavy foam underneath for them to sit on and found rust formed very quickly. Soaking the foam in oil solved the problem.
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    Hi Alex

    Years ago, when I was restoring an old car, there were many stories of those who would fill the longitudinals with foam in the belief that they could prevent moisture getting in. These were the cars that rusted fastest. Moisture would be trapped by the foam, held against the steel, where if courseitbwould lead to rust.

    By far the best method of avoiding rust is an atmosphere where the temperature does not vary, and where moisture vapour cannot be created. Add a protective layer to the steel as well.

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    Derek, as a ps. The new agers never seemed to extend the powers of pyramids to woodworking tools did they. Too easily disproved I suppose. Imagine the market out there for pyramid shaped tool chests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    Derek, as a ps. The new agers never seemed to extend the powers of pyramids to woodworking tools did they. Too easily disproved I suppose. Imagine the market out there for pyramid shaped tool chests.
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    Well worth the waste of space! Maybe we should just build the whole shed as a pyramid - might help us to stay sharp as well.
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