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  1. #1
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    Default Disston Tenon saw worn out?

    Hi All,
    I picked up a Disston Tenon saw today and it is in really nice condition except that it appears to be worn out? see the pic.
    I can't imagine It will be cutting anything up near the handle. Any thoughts on my options with this saw? I thought maybe filing it to a cross cut as in my mind that is the sort of cut that would require less blade depth?
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    Mike - that's a much-loved little saw, alright!
    Still plenty of uses for it, whichever mode you set it up in. Dovetail & small tenon cuts (rip) are shallow, as well as crosscuts on small pieces. The blade of my favourite dovetail saw is about 45mm wide, and that's plenty enough for me.

    If you watch anyone sawing, you'll find very few ever use much of the last 50mm of blade at the heel, so you shouldn't find the handle too obtrusive.....

    Cheers,
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    That has done a lot of work. There is still a couple of sharpenings left before you reach the wood on the handle. As IanW said it will cut as deep as the blade and should do most small joints. I have found that really big tennons (like 4''deep) I end up reaching for a large rip saw in any case.
    It is in good condition so be a shame not to use it some more.
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    If you compare it to the saws in Derek's review ... a change of handle (using just two bolts) and ... not so different (although the blades of Derek's saws are very thin) ...




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    Replace the blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyC View Post
    Replace the blade.

    Toby
    hi toby, do you mean keep.the brass bit and just insert a new piece of saw plate. What would be involved in doing that how is the plate held in the brass?

    regards mike

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    If you search back through IanW's posts you will certainly find a pile of good info on sawblades and toothing them and etc.

    Here's a couple recentish threads that touch on it a bit ...

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/d...5/#post1608877

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/n...ession-169326/

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by code4pay View Post
    hi toby, do you mean keep.the brass bit and just insert a new piece of saw plate. What would be involved in doing that how is the plate held in the brass?

    regards mike
    Mike, I think that's what Toby meant. You can buy a new piece of saw plate from Wenzloffs, and a couple of other places - all off-shore, unfortunately. The cost is very reasonable & you can opt for a plain piece of plate or have it toothed for you, which should take a lot of the anxiety out of the job if you haven't done it before. Wenzloff offer a choice of plate gauges, so just choose something close to your original & take a bit of a guess at the original width.

    The brass spine is a press-fit. It should be very easy to remove. I hold the saw in a metal vise & tap the spine of using a piece of hardwood as a punch, so as not to mark the brass.You will almost certainly have to shape the back of the blade a bit, where it goes into the handle - the old blade will be a good template for that, & for marking out the bolt hoes.


    The other job is to drill the bolt holes. Centre-punch them lightly (so you don't warp the saw plate) and use a carbide-tipped bit. You can use a regular HSS bit, but it will be totally dulled by the time you drill the 3 holes you need.

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    Thanks everyone for your replies. I quite like the idea if replacing the blade I will look into that. I would like a nice cross cut tenon saw. I just this week cut new (rip) teeth on a old G & T Gray back saw I picked up for five dollars. I used an old Stanley non sharpenable blade as a template (13 tpi). It worked out great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by code4pay View Post
    hi toby, do you mean keep.the brass bit and just insert a new piece of saw plate. What would be involved in doing that how is the plate held in the brass?

    regards mike
    Not exactly what this is about, but will be helpful to you.

    Retension a Backsaw

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    Thanks Toby, I've been looking for info like that for a while.
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