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Thread: Is this a EA Berg chisel or not?
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15th February 2011, 11:30 PM #1
Is this a EA Berg chisel or not?
Last week I received this chisel from a friend of me. I thought it is a EA Berg chisel, but I am not sure.
It has a very thin blade and a birch masure handle. The handle has the same shape as the standard Berg handles. The blade has the inscription Eskilstuna Sweden. The ferrules are both made form brass. With al this facts it seems to be a berg, but....
It has no Eric Anton Berg inscription and no Shark stamped on the blade. There is also an another, difficult to read inscription, I think this is the correct translation: B&O. ubergsi. AB , but I'm not sure.
The blade is stamped as follows:
B&O. ubergsi. AB
Eskilstuna
Sweden
Does anyone recognise this chisel? Or can anybody tell me more about him?
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15th February 2011, 11:36 PM #2
I don't think so, WF.
Eskilstuna was like Sheffield. It comprised a number of manufacturers, many very similar, and most (if not all) turned out superior blades.
This chisel has the look of a Berg, even down to the ferrule, but the name appears to reflect the district, rather than the AE Berg company.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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15th February 2011, 11:45 PM #3
The Berg.
Hi Wilco Flier,
I'm certain I don't know as much as Derek, but my Bergs have a Ferrule on the Top of the Handle, plus the Decal. That Handle is not a Berg Handle IMO, & they are distinctly marked, E.A.Berg.Regards,
issatree.
Have Lathe, Wood Travel.
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16th February 2011, 12:05 AM #4
Actually, the handle is a classic Berg-style one. The end has been damaged, which is why it does not have the end ring, but you can just make out Birch root, a wood that Berg used in their earlier days, plus the profile at the front is typical of Berg.
Sorry Issatree
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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16th February 2011, 12:14 AM #5
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16th February 2011, 04:37 AM #6Intermediate Member
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Hi WF
It's not a berg, although it looks very similar, but one of the many other companies in the Eskilstuna area. The correct name is B&O Libergs F.A.B.
I have a few items of the maker myself, and did some research a while ago. Can't remember where, so this is just from my memory.
The company was founded by the two brothers Bernd and Oscar Liberg in 1862 in the small town of Rosenfors as B&O Liberg. The name was changed in 1868 to B&O Libergs F.A.B. They produced all sorts of things made of steel and iron, but was eventually bought by Jernbolaget in 1938.
As for the quality, I haven't worked with any of mine yet, but what I have read is that people back in the days used to argue which brand was better - Berg or Liberg. And just like today it's impossible agree on such a thing. Most people tend to like their own brand better.
Either way it's a good chisel. I think the difference between Berg and other swedish companies is that Berg took their reputation worldwide and they didn't.
And btw. their logo is a rose, as in Rosenfors.
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16th February 2011, 05:35 AM #7
Hi Thomas,
Thank you very much for your interesting comment! I find it always interesting to identify the history behind a tool. Thanks again!
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16th February 2011, 12:07 PM #8
As Thomas has already said, steel from Eskilstuna is highly regarded across the board. One of the interesting things to see is how popular E A Berg products have become, while at the same time other Eskilstuna items are overlooked - particularly on ebay and other auction sites. Even vendors at Sunday markets have heard of Berg and price accordingly, but Jernbolaget, Kronan and even Swedish Toledo are sold at knock down prices.
As for the handles, there must have been a convention on handle design, as these all have a similar shape.
Virtually any Swedish chisel is worth keeping.
You have been lucky.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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17th February 2011, 11:10 PM #9Senior Member
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Toledo Chisels
I bought my black plastic handled bevel edge Toledos either fom Nock and Kirbys in Parramatta in the late 60's or from the hardware shop in East Row in Civic (Canberra) in the mid 70's
I have lots of other chisels now but they are still the ones I use for most general work
They take an edge quickly - and hold it for a reasonable time and they can be quickly honed
I measured them and so far I seemed to have used about 17 mil of the half inch and less of the other 3
Until I got some second hand firmers and pigstickers these got belted for every job but always with a mallet or even lump of 3x2
They look a bit grotty but they have stood up to everything I've thrown at them and look as if they have another 40 or 50 years in them at least
Neil
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