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Thread: Electrolysis danger!!!!
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6th November 2008, 10:47 PM #1
Electrolysis danger!!!!
Think twice before using stainless steel as electrodes!
http://www.antique-engines.com/stain...electrodes.htm
H.S.
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6th November 2008, 10:58 PM #2
What he says is correct - to a point. Yes you will release some chromium in the process, and as a precaution should wear gloves when you need to stick your hands in the solution, or when washing off whatever you've just processed.
As for it being illegal to dump the waste, that is no doubt true in the US, not sure what the case is here, maybe someone can enlighten us.
If you are planning to run the electolysis bath every day, I guess you need to think seriously about the health issues of stainless steel. If you are doing 1 plane now and again, I'm not sure if it's worth all the fuss.
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6th November 2008, 11:36 PM #3
Other than stainless steels, apparently using baking soda is also dangerous!
H.S.
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6th November 2008, 11:57 PM #4
And so is using a mobile phone... And breathing city air... and eating any kind of smoked meat...
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7th November 2008, 12:03 AM #5
G'day haosiliu235,
If you don't like the idea of stainless steel for electrodes or baking soda, citric acid or molasses are alternatives, but any of them do no harm to you in the quantities you'd need to restore a plane on an irregular basis.
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7th November 2008, 12:16 AM #6
what about vinegar? is that feasible
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7th November 2008, 12:32 AM #7
despite the small dangers...I'll still go ahead tomorrow
H.S.
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7th November 2008, 05:58 PM #8
Yes ,vinegar works , the best type to get is the cleaning vinegar from the laundry section of the super market as opposed to the normal vine vinegar from the food section.
Cleaning vinegar is made from mollassis.
I use it to clean and sharpen my metal working files as well as remove rust .
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7th November 2008, 06:12 PM #9
thanks Woodlee
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8th November 2008, 11:30 PM #10
I set up my electrolysis today using baked baking soda and 12v eveready battery, it appears to be producing bubbles etc however it is not really removing rust very fast. It's been about 10 hours and there is still some rust on the plane and the paint is still intact.
H.S.
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8th November 2008, 11:37 PM #11Senior Member
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I suspect the problem is the battery, its probably too low in amps to have a significant effect.
I've been looking for a cheap battery charger myself, cos I am keen to try this method.
Does anyone have any recommendations for what I could use? Could I use a power tool battery charger?
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8th November 2008, 11:48 PM #12
I found this in dicksmith today http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.st...uct/View/M9940
Probably this is the one to use...however due to the price I decided to get a 12v battery from Safeway.
I I dont think the battery is working...it is producing bubbles but in a insignificant amount and it is not really changing the water colour etc...H.S.
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pretty expensive for the task at hand. I saw one in DS that wasn't regulated for about $20 http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.st...uct/View/M9544. I have no idea, but I suspect the term 'regulated' relates to keeping a constant voltage and/or current, which this task doesn't require.
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9th November 2008, 12:09 AM #14
But where would the 2 wires attach? also wondering if we can use camera chargers etc.
I wonder what other people use...
btwHowever, be very careful with large storage batteries such as car batteries; these house a great deal of powerH.S.
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9th November 2008, 12:10 AM #15
Hi haosiliu235, SilverSniper
Not sure what sort of battery you are using, a normal car battery will supply plenty of amps. (EverReady, sounds like a dry cell battery!, that won't work)
You should be able to pick up a car battery charger from just about any auto supply shop for a reasonable price, $30 or so.
Also, you might like to know, Bunnings sell Sodium Carbonate, it's in the pool chemical department, labelled "SODA ASH"
Regards
Ray
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