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12th June 2015, 10:30 AM #1
Small Engineer's double square problem
Had an accident with my little Lee Valley double square yesterday. It sustained a slight knock and fell apart.
The adjustment screw appears to be a light weight cast alloy thingy and the nib that runs in the groove snapped off. I think I might be able to fix it up by finding a suitably threaded machine screw that I can file down and shape to fit the adjuster nut.
I guess a real Starrett is made of real steel all machined parts and wouldn't have had this problem?
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12th June 2015, 11:08 AM #2
Fuzzie spares can be got try Mcjing but wait till swws is over.
I may have a spare OR you can easily make one up out of a bolt I have done it in the past just using a grinder to shape the piece.
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12th June 2015, 11:37 AM #3
I'll try and find a bolt to fit first off and see how I go with the file/grinder.
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12th June 2015, 01:31 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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I've had pretty good experiences with Lee Valley's customer service department. If you can wait a week to get it, I doubt it would be a very expensive part.
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12th June 2015, 07:23 PM #5
If you want to re-use the knurled nut, Fuzz, you need a 1/4" NF bolt (I just checked mine to see what thread it is). It shouldn't be too hard to make a functional part, the bolt isn't critical, all it does is pull the blade against the stock. The trickiest part will be filing the key on the end that catches in the groove of the blade, but it doesn't need to be perfect to work. I think I've got a spare brass locking gadget somewhere. If I can find it, I'll see if it fits. If it does, I'll keep the brass one & you can have the original out of mine, if you have trouble finding a suitable bolt.
CheersIW
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12th June 2015, 09:14 PM #6
Thanks Ian. I'll keep you in mind if I screw up trying to make one.
On a related issue I've been trying to work out how to reliably search for a 4" square on ebay. Quoting the 4" is clearly a problem, however I've now noticed the Moore and Wright 416 and I'd be very happy to find one of those at the right price.
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12th June 2015, 09:52 PM #7
Fuzzie Jim Davies sells some nice solid engineers square's
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12th June 2015, 11:17 PM #8
The same exact thing happened to my PEC double square when I dropped it at the saw making workshop in Melbourne. Jim Davey has spares for the PEC square which looks exactly the same as yours. However I would contact Lee Valley first as they might supply a replacement free of charge.
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13th June 2015, 12:57 AM #9GOLD MEMBER
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The other thing you can search for is a die makers square.
Good for poking in dovetails.
There are a number of quality old brands.
Lufkin: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lufkin-138cx...item1c54347988
Starrett: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Starrett-Die...-/221798856974
Brown & Sharpe: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brow...-/181768684595
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13th June 2015, 07:44 AM #10
I can see some potential here for a new collection.
Repeat after me, I am a user not a collector, I am a user.........
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13th June 2015, 06:55 PM #11
I found the brass retainer today. It doesn't fit. Sorry about that, but I'll have to rescind the offer for now. However, I did discover that the groove in the LV blade is very generous, and will take a much larger nib than the one on the cheesy retaining bolt that come with it, so you shouldn't have too much trouble making something that fits. If you can find a brass (easier to work than steel) 1/4" NF bolt, you'll have a head start.....
Cheers,IW
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23rd June 2015, 01:39 PM #12
No problemo
Couldn't find anything the right size in brass, but had to start with a 1 1/2" high tensile bolt instead. I removed most of the waste by hacksawing along the thread lines and then smoothed off with the edge of a file. Cut the head off and almost fitted first test fit.
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23rd June 2015, 06:10 PM #13
You bought a new one didn't you looks great
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24th June 2015, 02:59 AM #14GOLD MEMBER
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It's never a bad time to set up a search (on ebay) for vintage hardened or at least full quality tools and let ebay present you with the results each morning.
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