Thread: Not your everyday chisels

I can understand that you are happy that they are easier to flatten due to the hollow but why would that make them any more than every day chisels or give you a new found respect for the manufacturer?

Originally Posted by Jack E

I can understand that you are happy that they are easier to flatten due to the hollow but why would that make them any more than every day chisels or give you a new found respect for the manufacturer?

I have never experienced this with knockabout chisels before. The backs are often convex if anything and a lot of work to flatten - even the plastic handled Bergs.
Hollow ground backs I have seen on Japanese chisels and on other high end chisels as well.
I didn't expect this on these and I am pleased with it.
Just wanted to share the joy.
It would be interesting to hear of the experiences of others.
SG

Fair enough, I am happy for you

Hi SG,

Well know me over with a feather. Never seen that before either in Stanley or Marples chisel. Very interesting, and strange.

Your chisel roll looks very much like one of mine SG, quite eclectic, a mix of blue and yellow handles and other makers. I like eclectic. Some say 'weird'.

Wonder if the steel is different to ordinary Stanleys or Marples, given that you would need to tap out the hollow as the bevel wears back, (like Japanese chisels)? Perhaps it is less brittle but tougher steel?

Thanks for sharing this oddity.

Cheers
Pops

Scribbly - that's an interesting pair of pics. However, it's a bit hard to fathom how the first one was hollow-ground when the residual grinder marks are running more or less at right angles, straight across the long axis??? So I thought maybe the blade has warped after grinding? If it has, it's a very happy coincidence that it is so neat & symmetrical.

Cheers,

Originally Posted by IanW

Scribbly - that's an interesting pair of pics. However, it's a bit hard to fathom how the first one was hollow-ground when the residual grinder marks are running more or less at right angles, straight across the long axis??? So I thought maybe the blade has warped after grinding?

My thoughts too, or possibly a hollow oilstone?

Originally Posted by Woodwould

My thoughts too, or possibly a hollow oilstone?

Tom doesn't use oilstones. He was educated in the Vietnamese Woodworking school. He rubs them on the front steps of whatever building he's camped in front of. (please excuse me ending that sentence with a preposition.)
Sometimes it's sandstone other times it's pebblecrete. This one looks like it might have been a marble statue.

Originally Posted by Caliban

Tom doesn't use oilstones. He was educated in the Vietnamese Woodworking school. He rubs them on the front steps of whatever building he's camped in front of. (please excuse me ending that sentence with a preposition.)
Sometimes it's sandstone other times it's pebblecrete. This one looks like it might have been a marble statue.

Only the mighty Multi-chisel is treated with such reverence and respect.
Here she is in all her glory:


All other also-ran chisels get the oilstone treatment.
SG

That's not all her glory.
I can't even see the patented variable aspect tang setup

Can't see the "fluoro pink" handle either, which doubles as a radiation detector and nite light.

I think the Tele-Point Marketting Department has knocked off early for Christmas.

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by IanW

Scribbly - that's an interesting pair of pics. However, it's a bit hard to fathom how the first one was hollow-ground when the residual grinder marks are running more or less at right angles, straight across the long axis??? So I thought maybe the blade has warped after grinding? If it has, it's a very happy coincidence that it is so neat & symmetrical.

Cheers,

Fairly easy to determine how the marks run across the back ,yet there is a slight hollow .It's done by use of a vertically mounted wheel and the wheel has a slight cant from the perfect vertical axis .Hope I explained that properly .Here a rough pic of the set up .
Rather than use a normal bench grinder wheel ,a cupped wheel would be used which have a very thin edge and are designed for grinding on the edge.

Kev.

Originally Posted by Woodlee

Fairly easy to determine how the marks run across the back ,yet there is a slight hollow .It's done by use of a vertically mounted wheel and the wheel has a slight cant from the perfect vertical axis .Hope I explained that properly .Here a rough pic of the set up .
Rather than use a normal bench grinder wheel ,a cupped wheel would be used which have a very thin edge and are designed for grinding on the edge.

Kev.

I'm aware of the process you describe, but if you look at the pictures, the grinding marks are tangental to the centre of the chisel blade which would not achieve the uniform honing marks if a cup was used for grinding.

Do we honestly believe Stanley and Marples have gone to that level of grinding sophistication on these, their budget/mid-range chisels? I think something else is at play here.

Originally Posted by Woodwould

I'm aware of the process you describe, but if you look at the pictures, the grinding marks are tangental to the centre of the chisel blade which would not achieve the uniform honing marks if a cup was used for grinding.

Absolutely. Kev, the marks on the chisel I referred to are asymmetrical & look like what you'd expect from a simple surface grinder setup - your method would leave symmetrical marks at right angles to the long axis (like you see on some Japanese chisels).

I notice Scribbly is staying very quiet while we all rave on - is he having a bit of fun with us after rubbing the backs on a hollowed-out stone as WW suggested??

Not that Scribbly is the sort of bloke to pull a leg or two....

Originally Posted by IanW

I notice Scribbly is staying very quiet while we all rave on - is he having a bit of fun with us after rubbing the backs on a hollowed-out stone as WW suggested??

Rubbing the backs on a hollowed out stone wouldn't result in a hollowed out chisel.