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Thread: Falcon F4 & F5 Planes
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1st July 2004, 12:15 AM #1
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Falcon F4 & F5 Planes
I've just been offered these two planes, the F4 with a busted handle. Are they a good proposition for restoring and general use. Does anybody know how much they are worth?.
One appears to have an old Stanley blade.
Squizzy
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1st July 2004, 08:42 AM #2
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Squizzy - I had a Falcon #6 for a while, and it was a perfectly functional plane, which responded well to a bit of cleaning and fettling. I used it as a 'jointer' until I got my #7, then traded it to a friend who is still very happy with it.
I came across it at a farm clearing sale in Canada, of all places. When I saw the 'Made in Australia' on it, I couldn't resist bidding on it, and got it for the staggering sum of $6. I had never heard of Falcons before that. They weren't made for very long, but if the quality of the one I had is anything to go by, they were at least equal to the Stanleys and Records of the day (i.e. early post WWII). If the price is right, go for them - at worst you'll learn more about planes and what makes them tick by tuning them up. All the talk here about Lie-Nielsens and Cliftons makes it sound like they are the only game in town, but you can make just about any old plane work well if you are prepared to put in the effort and learn what's really important to their function.
The very most important thing in any plane is a properly sharpened cutter.........
Cheers,IW
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1st July 2004, 10:39 AM #3
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Thanks Ian,
Squizzy
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1st July 2004, 08:56 PM #4
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Pope was one of those Aussie companies that jumped into the void when post WW11 shortages meant that very few British or American tools were available to be imported. They effectively just ripped off the style of the Stanley/Records of the day and marked them as their own. They were marked as Pope Falcon till about 1953, then just plain Pope till about 1955 when the company ceased production (those dates are from memory, could be a little out). In any case they made perfectly good planes. The world is awash with old no 4's so I usually see those between $20 to $45 depending on quality. Having a broken tote (handle) puts it towards the $20 end. For the no 5 I would pay $40 to $60. Check the body for cracks and the mouth for chips, and if it is in good condition then you have yourself two fine woodworking tools. They will never be collectors items, however.
I know lots of people ask for more, and I guess some people must pay it, but that is what I regularly see them for.
Arron
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