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    Default Things you find when fettling a plane.

    I purchased a Stanley No. 4 from Twisted Tenon (which he was going to fettle but decided to sell) and, being a wet and miserable day, I decided to strip it down and fettle it.

    Cleaning up the base and sides on a surface plate using wet and dry, this appeared on the side.

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    A question re the finish on the front knob and tote - the tote had remnants of standard deep red finish which wasn’t shellac as it wouldn’t dissolve in metho and the front knob had a patchy brown finish which also wasn’t shellac.
    Both have been cleaned down to wood and ready for a finish.
    What were they normally finished with? I’m thinking of a garnet shellac finish on both - would that be acceptable?

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    I just mixed up a batch of garnet shellac and it’s brownish rather than the redder colour I was expecting - subsequent checks on the web seems to confirm that it is brown rather than reddish.
    Can I mix a little mahogany spirit stain in with it to give it the colour that the tote originally was?

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    I seem to recall that Paul Sellers uses a reddish brown boot polish to stain his shellac for handles and knobs. May be worth a quick search on his site to see what comes up.

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    Killer Karl Cox?

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    Looks like a military service number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Looks like a military service number.
    Or a railway staff number?

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    If it is an older plane from 1950s, 60s it could be a phone number as phone numbers were only 6 digits then after being 2 letters and 4 digits.

    eg; Coburg, Vic was FL1234 becoming 35 1234
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    Thanks Folks. Using the a couple of online Stanley dating sites (which may or may not be accurate and no, I wasn’t looking for a partner for my Stanley &#128515 its a 1931/1932.

    re the finish - a couple of drops of mahogany spirit stain in the garnet shellac and I think it looks the goods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lappa View Post
    Thanks Folks. Using the a couple of online Stanley dating sites...
    ...its a 1931/1932.
    We can't see enough of the plane to argue with you .

    The handle is coming up nicely. What's next, paste wax?

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    After the overhaul, a coat of Ubeaut’s wax and it’s already to put into service.


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    Thanks Twisted, it’s a lovely plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lappa View Post
    Thanks Folks. Using the a couple of online Stanley dating sites (which may or may not be accurate and no, I wasn’t looking for a partner for my Stanley &#128515 its a 1931/1932
    I would say it’s definitely later than that; the ogee shouldered frogs didn’t feature on the US models until 1936 and Stanley UK didn’t start producing planes until a year later. The rounded tops to the blade and cap iron came in around the 1960’s. On the plus side it looks like it has a brass depth adjuster, a cast yoke and beechwood handles that have been properly rounded over so I reckon early to mid 60’s. Don’t get hung up on its age; if it feels good in the hand and takes fine shavings that’s all that matters in the end.
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    Yeah, how old it is doesn’t worry me a bit. It’s a great little plane and cuts superbly and thats all that counts



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    It it peeled off 0.04mm shavings easily

    As I said, I just followed a “Yes” “No” list on the web and it can up with that age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chesand View Post
    If it is an older plane from 1950s, 60s it could be a phone number as phone numbers were only 6 digits then after being 2 letters and 4 digits.

    eg; Coburg, Vic was FL1234 becoming 35 1234
    Not wrong. My sainted grandmather, who is now 101, lived in North Ryde Sydney. Her phone lumber was LITERALLY 4215..... then with the passing of the decades more digits were added on.

    Can you imagine it... a four digit phone number.

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    Hi Lappa. Nice resto. I think the online dating sites (sounds like something completely different ) are more accurate for Stanleys made in tne USA.

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