Need some firmers for a comparative test

**rsser** · 4th February 2011, 01:59 PM

Hi all,

I'm wanting to do a comparo between the now traditional scary sharp method (W&D on plate glass) and the new Woodpeckers honing plates with microfinishing abrasive sheet.

I already have all the chisels I'll never need that have gone through my process.

What I would like to use is a similar pair of firmers. Say Titans of 3/4" or 1" width.

So if you're willing to lend one or a matching pair of these, what you'll get back is a chisel with the back flattened and polished to about 30mm from the edge, and the secondary bevel polished, both down to 0.3 - 0.5 microns. Feel free to say what angle you want on the 2ndary bevel but the two will have to match.

You pay the postage to and fro. For one chisel, that'll be about $11; if you can send both, about $22.

What won't do is a back with rust pitting within 30mm of the edge or a tool that's had the edges of the bottom face rounded over by a rehabber too keen on the wire brush or abrasive wheel.

If you're interested please reply to

rsser
at
westnet
dot
com dot au

Thanks.

**ian** · 4th February 2011, 10:36 PM

would a pair of Two Cherries (Series 1205 -- 16 and 24mm) be too upmarket?

they have the slightly rounded edges as per the "standard" factory finish, but for firmers I don't consider that the rounding matters -- agree that the rounding is a problem with parers

**rsser** · 5th February 2011, 06:52 AM

Thanks for the offer Ian. I'm hoping for a pair of the same width just to reduce one of the variables.

**rsser** · 5th February 2011, 12:21 PM

OK, there's one 1" Titan firmer arranged.

Something similar in 1" would be welcome and I'll share the postage cost.

Again, no pitting within 30mm or so of the edge and pref no rounding over of the sides.

**planemaker** · 6th February 2011, 04:41 PM

Hi Ern. Matching set of W.Marples with boxwood handles. Take your pick on sizes you want.

Stewie.

**rsser** · 6th February 2011, 04:57 PM

A 1" would be great Stewie; but let's hold off til I hear back from a PMd offer.

(I've got a old rehabbed Marples firmer and crikey that steel is hard!)

**rsser** · 12th February 2011, 08:52 AM

Thanks for posting it Stewie.

And thanks others for your kind offers.

**planemaker** · 12th February 2011, 11:33 PM

Not a problem. Ern.

Stewie.

**FenceFurniture** · 13th February 2011, 01:39 AM

Hey Ern, do you think that's the same film we were discussing the other day? It must be - same microns ('cept Woodpeckers have skipped 1 micron), PSA backed. The Sandpaper Man doesn't mention it being long lasting, and it's a different size (so what), and Woodpeckers doesn't mention it being 3M (so what). I'd bet my left avocado that it's the same.

The Woodpecker system looks pretty good eh? Seems you might already have one. Are you thinking that it could a viable, if not better solution (in practical terms) than stones, which of course can get hideously expensive ($350 or something for a Shapton 30,000)? Then there's all the maintenance of the stones. Two sets of these gives you six gits in whatever grade you like. Very cool. Yes there's ongoing consumable cost but $120 outlay to cover six gits leaves you several hundred $$ to spend on paper over the next several years, and no stone maintenance.

I've got two (in fact more) granite sheets about 750 x 500mm that I use for such things, and also for flat sanding timber. They work a treat. They have a timber border around them with embedded M6 nuts so that I can fold some colour coded grit over the edges and clamp it taught. Great for through sanding over the edge.

Hmmm, just reread that - perhaps I'm one of those six gits.

Regards, Brett

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