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Thread: How do I fix a wobbly saw blade?
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13th June 2008, 10:41 PM #1Senior Member
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How do I fix a wobbly saw blade?
Hi
I've recently got myself my first handsaws! yay for me!
The 12' Ibbotson has an oh so slightly loose blade. Its an up and down movement rather than a side to side shift.
I was wondering if i could insert a shim into the splice and the top of the saw handle? just a tiny one to wedge it stiff. It would go down between the end of the blade and the wood of the handle. There's a gap there of about 2mm or so.
Sorry dont have a pic but its the splice nearly all backsaws have that allows the steel or brass back to fit into the handle while still being able to see it all.
Cheers
Tom
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13th June 2008, 11:22 PM #2
The handle should clamp the blade, not the brass back, so that gap
shouldn't matter. It is probably the wood around the screws has loosened
a little over time. Take the screws out and see what it looks like.
You can grind a slot out of a screwdriver to suit the split nuts. Or you
can make one from an old spade bit.
A picture would help. Take a picture of the Ibbotson mark as well.
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13th June 2008, 11:44 PM #3Senior Member
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hi ray
sorry but the saw is with the doctor. it has smooth topped screws/bolts.... not sure how to get those off...
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14th June 2008, 12:05 AM #4
Guessing again, but do the screws have the words "patent" embossed on the heads on one side?
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14th June 2008, 12:09 AM #5Senior Member
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no. they are smooth on both sides. currently trying to post photo that i have of it.
edit: finally got a pic on. screws are the same smooth heads on both sides.
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14th June 2008, 01:57 AM #6
Nice saw, urk.. I see what you mean about the screws.... same both sides(!)..
You could try some kind of rubber grip on the end of a block and sort
of press and turn.
It would be a shame to cut slots in the head.
One side will be the nut, fixed side and the other will be the screw side.
Try both sides.
FWIW..
Ibbotson Brothers made saws from 1828 - 1915
Looks like early 1900's
So it's probably been making furniture for at least 100 years..
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14th June 2008, 12:21 PM #7Jim
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Handle could have dried out and shrunk a bit. Could try giving it a good soak in linseed.
The rivets might not be screwed just held by friction. Could try tapping them tighter or replace them with screw rivets.
Jim
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14th June 2008, 01:13 PM #8
Looking closer, the etching is clearly "George Ibbotson" not "Ibbotson Bros."
There is no listing in "Hand Saw Makers of Britain" for a George Ibbotson,
There is a "Ibbetson & Co., Wm. & Geo" 1797 - 1829
Yours doesn't look like an early 19th cent,
I found a "George Ibbotson, Saw Maker, 45 Cairns Road, Crosspool" in the
Whites 1911 Sheffield trade directory.
So my money is on that guy. Made sometime after 1911.
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oh, i didn't realise there was a differnce between george and the bro's.
thanks for the linseed tip jim.
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16th June 2008, 02:15 PM #10
I have doing a bit of research on this sort of stuff, and often there are multiple saw makers with the name (surname that is). There are at least 5 Ibbotson listings in Sheffield alone. From 1791 to 1925.
I think Jim is on the right track with soaking the wood to try to get it to expand and tighten up. If that doesn't work, then I guess it's back to cutting slots in the screw heads
Let us know how it goes when it comes back from the doctor.
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16th June 2008, 07:32 PM #11Senior Member
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ok. seems BLO is the answer for starters. cheers.
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17th June 2008, 10:03 AM #12Jim
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Just keep in mind that the rivets might be similar to cutlers rivets and fitted by tapping together. There might not be a screw thread there at all.
Jim
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17th June 2008, 12:43 PM #13Senior Member
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Thanks Jim.
If the hole in the saw blade and/or the holes on the handle have become larger with time, I could replaced them with a larger set of cutlers rivets?
Tom
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17th June 2008, 04:51 PM #14Jim
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If they have to be replaced it's best to do it with proper screw rivets which can be adjusted.
Good luck
Jim
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17th June 2008, 04:52 PM #15Jim
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ps by adjusted I mean tightened if necessary in the future or even undone
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