Thread: Fixtures and Jigs for Hand-Cut Joinery

Speaking French might help considering French and Italian are similar!

But, in all seriousness, we all steal ideas. Unless he is selling these items, I (personally) don't think it's an issue.

Originally Posted by johknee

Speaking French might help considering French and Italian are similar!

But, in all seriousness, we all steal ideas. Unless he is selling these items, I (personally) don't think it's an issue.

I am okay giving him the benefit of the doubt, however at least one (and likely a lot more) viewers would have assumed that these jigs/fixtures were his. Credit appears to be given to the last person who used a technique.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by derekcohen

I am okay giving him the benefit of the doubt, however at least one (and likely a lot more) viewers would have assumed that these jigs/fixtures were his. Credit appears to be given to the last person who used a technique.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Derek, do you honestly think you were the first to use this or a similar idea since woodworking began. Ideas come and go and others see something and copy it, I have had one idea ripped off and it is now sold world wide by the person brought into the project to market it not copy and rip me off and he made a pile of money doing so. Ideas put into the public domain by those who invent them are put there willingly for no other reason than to show how something can be done and are freely used, copied and modified. Perhaps his method preceded yours, anything is possible.

Hi Chris

It is entirely possible for more than one to come up with the same or similar idea separately. In my case, I research the area before posting. If I am aware that there is something similar, then I mention it. If I am aware that the method I am using was inspired by someone, then I mention them.

There appears to be a total disregard for plagiarism on YouTube - so many nearly-identical videos all posting the same concept ... as though they came up with the idea.

I have also had my ideas ripped off. Three years after posting (on fori and on my website) the blue tape method for transferring dovetail marks, an article was published in FWW magazine. The author tried to convince me that I read about it on his (non-existent) blog. Not that long ago, someone sent in a shop tip to FWW that was lifted almost word-for-word from my website. In both cases, FWW were not interested in any action. The latter tip ("The #140 trick is dead") has now been taken up by Rob Cosman. He acknowledges that he did not invent it, but has "forgotten" that I sent it to him. Soon it will be Rob Cosman's trick.

I cannot hold people accountable - I do this for myself as I am trained in accountability. It bothers me when I see plagiarism, but I take a deep breath and try and move on.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by yvan

What sort of brass bolts tightened by an Allen key are you using for the sliding fence of the mortice jig?

I suspect the 'bolts' Derek has used are this type - M6 x 50mm CROSS DOWEL CONNECTING BOLTS & 20mm BARREL NUTS FOR FURNITURE BED COTS | eBay

Thanks Aldav. And my apology for missing this Yvan.

That is correct. Pick them up at Bunnies. 6mm bolts, and use the complementary 6mm aluminium inserts.

Regards from Perth

Derek

The only other person I know of to create a fixture for cutting tenon cheeks is Jeff Miller. This is his idea ..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PJcaha_aq8c

Regards from Perth

Derek

Two morticing fixtures. The first is by Paul Sellers. Note that his is a fixed distance, and he makes several to accommodate widths of stretchers. Mine is similar, but has variable spacing …

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDk9Rv5imj0

The second is a mortice paring fixture of Jeff Miller. Again fixed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FaZOFWB14-Y

Regards from Perth

Derek

Just to take this a bit further, no one can say that any idea that is placed on the internet was never used prior to the internet and has not been passed down via training or simply word of mouth or two people came up with the idea independently. Unless you or I or anyone else are absolutely certain an idea has been copied (and so what, no IP no harm) it is a big assertion to say so. My ripped off design was patented and the ripping off literally cost me tens of thousand of dollars and I can prove it was the first of its kind.

Mitre Jack.
Screws to work table or fits in bench vice. Cut then shave tenons with shoulder plane if needed. Been around for a long time . The English version of what Chris posted from Youtube.
No flush saw needed. Just a spacer piece seems to work good and only needed to start the cut. Works on haunch as well. Shoulder plane does really well on it . Crisp perfection.
Jeff Miller looks like hes trying awfully hard to solve a problem solved centuries ago. By tradesmen who kept it to themselves. Youtube is full of such people . Try not to pay to much attention to them Derek . The answer is in the old tool boxes and remains of old workshops if we are lucky enough to find the clues.


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The most efficient way for Mortises was the mortise horse. Not in a vice.

If one ever has to delve into the world of intellectual property protection... you will find most of what exists in the legal sphere is not based on intellectual honesty but really rough as guts and pragmatic industrialism with knobs on.

Originally Posted by derekcohen

Hi Chris

It is entirely possible for more than one to come up with the same or similar idea separately. In my case, I research the area before posting. If I am aware that there is something similar, then I mention it. If I am aware that the method I am using was inspired by someone, then I mention them.

There appears to be a total disregard for plagiarism on YouTube - so many nearly-identical videos all posting the same concept ... as though they came up with the idea.

I have also had my ideas ripped off. Three years after posting (on fori and on my website) the blue tape method for transferring dovetail marks, an article was published in FWW magazine. The author tried to convince me that I read about it on his (non-existent) blog. Not that long ago, someone sent in a shop tip to FWW that was lifted almost word-for-word from my website. In both cases, FWW were not interested in any action. The latter tip ("The #140 trick is dead") has now been taken up by Rob Cosman. He acknowledges that he did not invent it, but has "forgotten" that I sent it to him. Soon it will be Rob Cosman's trick.

I cannot hold people accountable - I do this for myself as I am trained in accountability. It bothers me when I see plagiarism, but I take a deep breath and try and move on.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Aldav & Derek,

Thank you both for your answers, much appreciated.

Cheers
Yvan

A really simple jig which i copied from this forum, but in combination with Derek's blue tape trick it has helped my dovetailing no end.

A no-frills dovetail alignment jig.

Currently making a small box with purple heart which really accentuates how its used

Regards,

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One of the most useful things that I have made for the workshop is a low mobile worksurface.
I have put it on castors which I can lock when I want to fix it in place.
I use it to place projects on when a bench is too high and the floor is too low.
It also doubles as a trolley to move larger items about, and wheels out of the way when not in use.
Tom

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