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    That plane doesn't look user adjusted or modified to me. Its original, unusual and rare. There's no sign of it being played with. Normally later modifications can be spotted and later timbers don't match the older wood in colour or the quality of the factory fitting. That front sole matches the back.

    I had a search and came across this Preston and sons 1901 catalogue .

    Edward Preston & Sons 1901 Catalog - Handplane Central

    I couldn't find the exact plane to match this one.
    This was interesting though .
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    You see cheese head screws in planes from this period . You can also see the cheese head screw in woodsufers plane has a fitted brass cup (red arrow) to hold and take the pressure of the screw head.

    And Preston used these screws and cups in their planes and sold them separate in that 1901 catalogue.

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    Part 435 is just a detail in favour of it being an original fitting by Preston when they made it in their factory Id say.
    Using the link I put in above to the catalog gives a better view of the details.

    Rob .

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    Hi , I think Robert has nailed it with his last post with item 435 on the Preston cattle dog, the brass cup that the screw sits in, Matches, screw and captured nut, matches.In this case the precision of the fit of the boxwood base, the modifying craftsman had to employ hand tools,and or a machine shop and skills beyond the possible value of the plane and time involved,thats just my shot at it, if its truly rare and unique probably should be passed on , thanks Ross
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    I do agree it looks 'original', but don't underestimate how darned skilful some folks are. I'm not claiming I could do as neat a job myself, but I knew a couple of blokes who could've matched the fit, no sweat!

    But there are several reasons why it is more likely a factory job, as Rob maintains, & I think you're observation that the time & effort involved for a user to do such a perfect job would cost more than it's worth is probably the clincher.......


    Cheers,
    IW

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsurfer View Post
    Edward Preston and Sons one and a half inch shoulder plane, good condition with sharp blade, what got me and I was unaware of is the boxing in front of the blade slides to open the mouth, what a great idea, it took nice shavings without any work, i believe it could date prior to WW1,anyway it is in my care , what a story it must have , Thanks RossAttachment 515207Attachment 515208Attachment 515209Attachment 515210
    Here you go Ross.
    A collector friend sent me pictures from his (copy of ?) May 1909 Preston catalog.

    The Preston 285B 1 1/2" T Boxed with a Moveable Face.

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    Great sleuthing Rob!

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    Well found indeed Rob, & your judgement that it was factory original is completely vindicated!

    The fancy bits sure increased the price over the run-of-the-mill rebate, didn't they?
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post

    The fancy bits sure increased the price over the run-of-the-mill rebate, didn't they?
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    Ian
    They did Ian . Not sure the fancy bits would have made it almost 3 x a better rebate plane though .
    Its a Nice one. Top of the range for a Preston wooden "Rabbet" as they called it.
    I thought Rabbet was just a US thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    .....I thought Rabbet was just a US thing....
    Nope, it has a long tradition in the "mother country" - there are quite a few words that travelled to Nth America & remained unchanged while they may have evolved into different pronunciation or spelling in Britain. I guess "rabbet" is a natural corruption of "rebate", like "soffit" for "surfeit" ...
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