Giant Stanley plane.

**clear out** · 16th September 2021, 10:12 PM

Ian W, I didn’t make those kits or the small palm planes.
Ray is the guy I started the tool sales in 1986 here in Sydney when with he was between jobs I guess.
He’d been a keen collector and when underemployed had gone door to door in the older Brisbane suburbs asking if there were any old tool boxes stored under the Queenslanders.
He found a few gems and lots of user tools but did it pretty tough for a while up there.
So I guess he wasn’t Bolshoi enough to take on a legal challenge and didn’t want to redo the dies for the waxes for the range of small tools he created.

Pity he quit as I had started to make ‘rare spares’ for Stanley planes and Ray was the Foundry contact.
The type of casting was different to what I had done even though I was doing masters for a Sydney guy shooting acrocyanides into epoxy moulds for office furniture etc.
The frogs for 51s as mentioned then I started on the epoxy dies for the two different 113 rear handles and another die for the 52 hold down.
All bits wot broke or went missing from my experience.
I’d sourced the left and right hand thread taps from a US engineering supplier no probs.
Found the half completed dies recently, more junk to dispose of.
H.

**GraemeCook** · 17th September 2021, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by clear out

Grahame I think possibly a tradesman gave an apprentice a broken #7 and he then made the pattern.

Why longer ? Why not ? Like my Al Ewheel because you can.

You also leave a conundrum for people to puzzle over. ...

Precisely, and very arguable, as the lawyers say.

The eclectic mixture of components identified by Gerry G suggests that the donor plane had been fixed or maintained or upgraded many times in its life. Then the body broke (?) and the apprentice or the craftsman himself cast a new enhanced body.

The question is when did this happen - 1900, 1950 or 2000?

My observation is that there were too many different model components for it to be around 1900, and the casting looks too old for 2000. My best guess is 1930-1960, but it is a guesstimate.

**clear out** · 17th September 2021, 04:29 PM

The dating answer may be in the connection ‘tween old and new.
The frog hold down screws/bolts.
What makes this interesting is that except for form the tpi on UC or USS is the same as Whitworth in most sizes, so unless the screws are pristine to be identified or something odd even the country of modification may be uncertain.
Thats why I asked in an earlier post if these were the early Stanley threads, if they were there’s a chance it’s from the Stanley works. Possibly as a foreign order but definitely from North America.
H.

**Boringgeoff** · 20th September 2021, 10:46 AM

Good morning all, thanks very much for all your contributions on this subject, I can only dream of this much discussion about braces.
I have drawn Gerry's attention to this conversation and he has read it with interest, I've left it up to him to either join the forum or send me any info' to add on his behalf and that is where we are now.
From my point of view, were we talking braces, and I had a previously unknown brace I would welcome this type of discussion, because at the end of the day what I want to hear is someone say "I've got one the same". Who knows, that may well eventuate one day.
Thanks again.

Cheers,
Geoff.

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