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7th March 2013, 09:30 AM #16Rank Beginner
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I believe it's really difficult to find a new grinder that's even half useable... I would really recommend buying a vintage one. You want a cast-iron behemoth, not a shoddy poorly-machined tool imitation.
I purchased mine from a forum member for a very reasonable price - a really cool and well-preserved model made by a defunct Melbourne tool company (maybe 60's vintage). You should perhaps post in the "wanted to buy" category of the marketplace and see what comes up.Cheers,
Eddie
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7th March 2013, 10:43 AM #17
Can anyone supply names of tried-and-true trusted vintage brands?
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7th March 2013, 10:48 AM #18
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7th March 2013, 12:09 PM #19
Well, there are pros and cons for the hand grinder, but I find them awkward.
I have two old ones that are for sale over on the Market Place Thread if anyone is interested.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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7th March 2013, 12:21 PM #20
In case you want to see what the Wearing tool rest looks like - here's a blog post about mine
Cheers
Jeremy
If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly
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8th March 2013, 12:51 PM #21
In my opinion there is a definite place for them. I have an old one ... no brand on it that I can see.
The wheel/shaft moves left and right by 5mm or so, but no wobble to the wheel as such and it works great.
It has an old 6" grey wheel. 'A60MV' inked on the side.
Obviously the main benefit is the Infinitely-Variable-Drive speeds available
I have used it especially when I was learning to sharpen a couple dozen carving chisels.
I think it is good for getting the blunt section pre-edge down close to a thin thin wisp of a line.
A diamond plate might do the same job, but I don't have one.
It is good for developing a 'freehand' grinding style.
For grinding using two-hands holding a chisel or iron solidly on a good tool-rest ... use an electric grinder.
I haven't used it turning the handle very fast ... I think you should use a normal grinder for bulk removal of metal.
My 2c.
Cheers,
Paul
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8th March 2013, 04:18 PM #22Rank Beginner
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Agreed.
Main advantages are:
-Takes up almost no space. You can store it in a cupboard or under your bench when you aren't using it. A powered grinder really needs its own permanent stand.
-Quiet. Much better for the whole sharpening zen thing than the screaming powered grinder.
-Difficult to burn a tool with - although I've done it.
-Potential for very slow speeds allows you to grind right to the edge without the risk of overheating, saving time honing.
-Significantly cheaper.
-Significantly safer.
Disadvantages:
-Slower.
-Makes you look like a serial killer, especially in hunched silhouette after a crack of lightning in a poorly lit back workshop... Ask SWMBO.
-You need to control the tool with only one hand. In my opinion this is pretty easy with a little practice, but I do have a fancy Veritas tool rest, and have only ground simple, straight edges (planes, chisels, shaves).Cheers,
Eddie
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8th March 2013, 09:25 PM #23
Asked her; she emailed me this photo
toolshed-monster.jpg
Thanks for listing some interesting advantages.
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8th March 2013, 09:36 PM #24
This is my hand cranked grinder https://www.woodworkforums.com/f127/h...lrests-131637/
the thread contains a number of links.
i bolted the grinder on back to front so I could turn it with my left hand. I can do straight and curved profiles. Curved profiles include Stanley and thicker veritas blades with 5 1/2 to 8 inch profiles.
maybe because I have mucked around with it since I was 8 or 9. Thanks Pop.
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6th June 2013, 07:59 AM #25New Member
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Amazed
I've been reading the posts about these grinders.
I have one, but don't use it as I like to use both hands.
What does amaze me is the price.
I renovate and sell tools, all over the world, (eBay - Squern). On my travels, looking for good stuff, I regularly see these at sales, for a few pounds . I don't buy them, because it never occurred to me that anyone would use them now. These are vintage ones - I know they aren't made now, but I think you can get the wheels.
I can't believe anyone would pay that amount of money for one, when you can buy a half-decent electric grinder for less.
However, you live and learn. In future, I will be buying them and stockpiling!!
Seriously, is there a demand for them?
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