Thread: Old Hand Saw Help

I cant help you but the guys from this site sure would be able to: backsaw.net
almost looks like a spear & jackson but I don't recall any of their saws having that metal plate on the handle.

Originally Posted by schuld66

I picked up a hand saw at a garage sale and I've never seen one like it. The handle has 4 rounded-head saw nuts on top of a metal (brass?) plate, which is on top of the handle. The blade measures about 26" and there is no medallion. Another thing -- the blade metal looks almost like brass -- it has a yellowish color to it. The blade is labeled with 6 teeth per inch where a Disston mark would be. Oh, and it also has a nib. I'll include pics.
Thanks.

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There's a lot of saws with side plates like that, but Jesse Lane looks the closest I can find at the moment, The S&J Aetna with side plates I think only had 3 screws, but later S&J version of the same model might have had 4 screws, but the handle shape on the S&J is different, so I think S&J is out, Maybe Disston Standard? but for now Jesse Lane is my best guess.

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Jesse Lane ( courtesty of Marv )

Regards
Ray

PS I think The Jesse Lane brand is now manufactured by Flinn Garlick aka Pax etc etc,.

Originally Posted by schuld66

I picked up a hand saw at a garage sale and I've never seen one like it. The handle has 4 rounded-head saw nuts on top of a metal (brass?) plate, which is on top of the handle. The blade measures about 26" and there is no medallion. Another thing -- the blade metal looks almost like brass -- it has a yellowish color to it. The blade is labeled with 6 teeth per inch where a Disston mark would be. Oh, and it also has a nib. I'll include pics.
Thanks.

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There is a good chance the dome nuts and brass plate are not original parts to the handsaw. If you look at the 3rd photo that shows the back of the handle the fitted saw screws have a much smaller head compared to the original bore holes seats on the handle. If you were to remove the brass plate and find the same thing was obvious then that would confirm to you that it is not an original fixture. If you were to find a single larger counter bore in the mix on the face side of the handle this confirm that the handle was originally fitted with a medallion. As for the maker of the handsaw I cant help you with that question.

Stewie;

This was a phase that handsaws went through ... probably roughly 1900+- ... S&J catalogue that Holmesy has shows they could be ordered with side-plate as optional. I'd say the nuts and plate look about right for others I have seen.

Toby enquired after his one a while back ... there were several mentioned then ... I didn't know much back then as you can tell from my 'contributions'

I think the Disston 'enterprise' saw was their side-plated model.

I'll find the link.

Cheers,
Paul

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/m...elp-id-151848/

It is the 'standard' not the 'enterprise' ... as RayG points out in the link.

The 'enterprise' had a square and a ruler built in to it ...

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Paul

PS ... I read some other posts about posting photos ... easiest way I know is ..

After reading the posts, I have a couple things to add that I noticed. While some of the saws are similar, on my saw the top part of the handle plate comes to a point (see pic). None of the others looked like that. Also, I looked at the blade more closely and found some writing. Several times, the letters "WALSH" or possibly "H WALSH" are stamped on the blade in small, block letters (about 1/8" high letters). This might be the name of a previous owner, making absolutely sure everyone knew it was his saw -- not sure. I'll attempt pictures of that as well. And does the fact that it has a nib near the end of the blade mean anything?
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Got a magnet? I would be astounded if it was brass!

Nope, not brass

Just a guess at the colour, but it appears to have been pretty enthusiastically cleaned with a rotary tool which may have imparted the bronze tinge. I have a wire wheel that does that.

of course its not a brass saw (that would be like JC pawning jewlery) , all things considered there may have never been a brass saw conceived in all history, quite possibly, who knows! waste of time if they did.


i forget the brand but it looks just like one i have, starts with a 'B' (i could check i guess), more TPI and for some reason the nib looks a long way back, even though the saw plate appears to have some meat left on it, fine-ish toothed (for what it is) but otherwise not an unusual saw to my eyes...anyways, an old-ish yanky brand i would guess, imitating the english type saws....






cheers
chippy

When you said 'B' Chippy I started thinking 'Brown' and 'Bakewell' ...

It's quite handsome-looking I think ... quite similar to this Wheeler Madden & Clemson of Mike Stemple ... (but prob not actually them) ...

https://plus.google.com/photos/11674...95154356019985

Cheers,
Paul

Originally Posted by ch!ppy

......all things considered there may have never been a brass saw conceived in all history, quite possibly, who knows! waste of time if they did......

I guess they had plenty of time to waste, back then.

Looks like they had trouble getting good saw files on Crete back then too.

Originally Posted by ch!ppy

all things considered there may have never been a brass saw conceived in all history, quite possibly, who knows! waste of time if they did.

Originally Posted by IanW

I guess they had plenty of time to waste, back then.

To be fair ... it wasn't called the Brass Ages. ... (I believe that was Victorian London.)

Don't you both hail back to roughly that period??