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26th April 2016, 10:19 PM #46
Matt
The saw had lost very little of it's original depth and it was an older style full depth saw in the first place. It was strange that the teeth were so poor. I suspect it had been used for a wrong purpose. The lightweight/shipspoint/narrow saws did not find favour until around the late teens and early 1920s
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7th May 2016, 04:43 PM #47Senior Member
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Paul,
i just happened to be looking through a simonds catalogue and noticed they sold nuts, screws and also available with eagle medallions which appear to be just the same (dare i say exact) as on your stiletto, in brass. but the nickel plating perhaps a special order or done by pacific hardware or someone else. simonds also sold the handles separately as well, in apple, with or without wheat carving or in beech, no screw holes drilled.
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chippy
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11th December 2019, 10:35 AM #48
Time flies as it was three years ago I researched the Stiletto brand. However a chance conversation with Michael Merlo by email brought up this subject again. He has for sale a Lakeside No.112
Lakeside No.112 26 inch.jpgLakeside No.112 etch.jpg
Michael maintained that this saw was probably made by Geo. H. Bishop & Co. In the course of our emails I put forward the Stiletto and he commented that he believed it was also made by Bishop.
The first saw is a Bishop No.12. The second saw is The Lakeside No.112 and the third my Stiletto No.8
Geo H Bishop No.12.jpg Lakeside No.112.jpg Stiletto No.8 008.jpg
Suspiciously similar? My saw replicates the Bishop even more than the Lakeside saw, which was the brand of Montgomery Ward. For some reason, when researching the Stiletto I had concentrated on the big 3 saw manufacturers. However, Bishop was not far behind. It also explains the use of nickel plated saw screws as they appear on the Bishop saw too. I had had trouble reconciling that with the other saw makers.
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8th February 2024, 07:01 PM #49New Members
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Really late reply. I recently found a stiletto pacific hardware and steel co saw with an Atkins. Medallion on it. The saw is a crosscut 8ppi it has a full nib and a reasonably nice etching. I can’t quite make out the number though. The handle has its horns cut off and and part of the upper part over the plate was cut. All hardware is nickel plated including the medallion. I’m not sure if it was re-handled but from the wear marks it looks original but modified for some reason.
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9th February 2024, 08:57 AM #50SENIOR MEMBER
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When I saw the title of this old thread my sick mind went straight to one of these. Thanks for thee memories.
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9th February 2024, 09:24 AM #51
Picko
I think water skiing played a large part for you in years gone by. Se post #11.
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9th February 2024, 09:30 AM #52SENIOR MEMBER
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Yes, and it has also effected my memory, or maybe that's from the beer consumed.
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9th February 2024, 09:33 AM #53
Thanks andrew.n and welcome to the Forums.
I think you have a different model and this is because you have mentioned a "nib," which was only found on straight back saws. My No.8 was a skewback. I would be interested to see some pix, but as a first time poster you may not have that privilege yet. When you are able, please put up a pic.
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PaulBushmiller;
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10th February 2024, 08:56 AM #54
This advertisement from 1917 may be useful in identifying Stiletto saws:
Pacific Hardware and Steel 1917 adv.jpg
It is interesting to note that the No.5 model is bottom of the range and the handle is made from Beech. That style in other brands such as Disston, Simonds, Atkins & Bishop would have been at or near the top. There is quite a bit of information there including original depths of blade, weights and graduation (progressive tooth line)
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