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Thread: How to hold a paring chisel
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13th July 2009, 12:56 PM #1
How to hold a paring chisel
In his description of the use of the paring chisel, Moxon states:
"It is not knocked upon with the mallet, but the blade is clasped upon the outside of the hindermost joints of the fore- and little fingers, by the clutched inside of the middle and third fingers of the right hand. And so its edge being set upon the scribed line and the top of the helve [handle] placed against the hollow of the inside of the right shoulder. With [the workmen] pressing the shoulder hard upon the handle, the edge cuts and pares away the irregularities.In his commentary, Chris Schwarz describes this suggested use of the paring chisel as "a bit unusual". It certainly does not seem to be one that is in the standard works on woodwork, carpentry, joinery and cabinetmaking such as those of Paul Hasluck, Bernard Jones, Charles Hayward or Ernest Joyce. It also doesn't appear in my fourth edition of Walton's Woodworking.
This way of handling may seem a preposterous posture to manage an iron tool in, and yet the reason of the original contrive of this posture is to be approved. For short workmen hold the blade of the paring chisel in their whole hand, they must either hold their hand pretty near the helve [handle], where they cannot well manage the tool, although must hold it pretty near the edge, where the outside of the fingers will hide the scribed line they are to pare in [to]. But this posture all work them are at first taught; and [their] practice dost so inure them to it, that if they would, they could not well leave it."
I have been reviewing old Australian books on woodwork carpentry and joinery both for personal interest and also to make suggestions to Gary Roberts as to works that he might republish electronically. This weekend, I was reading New Australian Home Carpentry Illustrated, which was written by Alex Smith and published in the early 1950s. It shows as an item of "Workshop Wisdom", a similar use of the paring chisel to that described by Moxon. The only differences seem to be that the workman uses his left hand to wrap around the blade rather than the right, and his hand on the blade does not use the little finger in addition to the forefinger. The enclosed pdf shows the picture and accompanying text.
I am ordering the longer bladed paring chisels in the paring chisel bulk order to make this approach to holding the chisel easier for me (I find that 150mm blades are a bit short for this purpose).Cheers
Jeremy
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G'day Jeremy,
Thanks for sharing. It is always good to know a correct way of holding a tool. I have learned a lot of bad techniques & habits from time to time and have to "unlearn" them.
This will be very handy with TS' Paring Chisel group buy. You raise a good point, maybe 250mm is the way to go. That way you don't have to stoop too close when paring. Then again, I am vertically challenged and may not have the issue.
Actually, I saw a similar position in this book, [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Hand-Tool-Essentials-Techniques-Woodworking/dp/1558708154/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247791049&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: Hand Tool Essentials: Refine Your Power Tool Projects with Hand Tool Techniques (Popular Woodworking): Popular Woodworking Editors: Books[/ame], borrowed from the library.
I believe it was Chris Schwarz demonstrating how to hold a chisel for cutting a rabbet or groove.
Cheers mate,
GUNN
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29th July 2009, 10:59 PM #3
Jeremy
maybe the difference between Moxon and Smith's grip on the paring chisel relates to vertical vs horizontal paring?
anyway,
thanks for posting your thoughts and the imageregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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31st July 2009, 01:26 PM #4
Re. grip on paring chisels.
I was taught as an apprentice patternmaker in the 60s to use a grip not unlike this.
We where using long English patternmakers paring chisels and gouges.
Some tucked the handle under their right shoulder for weight but I found it more natural to use my left shoulder.(Still gripping chisel in right hand about halfway up).
Only one hand was used and a slicing cut could easily my used with one.
Note that all lines were knife scribed and the chisel edge could located in the line.
As we were adding draft to the patterns vertical alignment wasn't an issue.
I found that finding and maintaining vertical a challenge years later whilst at the Canberra skool ofarts. The zenmaster said that if our tools were truely sharp one did not need the slicing action. (I wont tell you what magiclilly said).
Back to the real world,
I now use the long Jap chisels and haven't leant on them with my shoulder for years.
H
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