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    A friend gave me an old Mathieson wooden plane last year so I sharpened it and I use it occasionally. I was on the go with it today and thought how well it worked. It has a Mathieson and Son backing iron but a Stiletto brand blade. A web search tells me the Stiletto tool Co started in Sacramento US in 1848 and still makes tools today. Can any one tell me if Stiletto made complete planes or only blades?
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    Default Stiletto tool Co

    You can find the Stiletto tool Co, at Stiletto Tools . I think they seem to stock what they term, striking and struck tools.

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    Yes I looked at the Stiletto site it would appear the plane blade is a relic from the past. The Mathieson backing iron screws to it ok. So maybe it was bought as a replacement for the origional blade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linesman View Post
    Yes I looked at the Stiletto site it would appear the plane blade is a relic from the past. The Mathieson backing iron screws to it ok. So maybe it was bought as a replacement for the origional blade.
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    Barry,
    That Stiletto brand of planes was made by Stanley in the Bailey style for a hardware company 1920s - 1950s, the only name identifying feature is the blade logo. But they had stained hardwood handles, twisted lateral lever, tapered blades in the old style like wooden plane blades.
    Here is a #4 I sold to another forum member.
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    Stanley would absorb another plane maker and release a plane under the old name in this pattern.
    There were also more than a couple of retailers that used the same plane with their name on the blade.
    Here is a #2 plane in same configuration, named Siegley. It was available in a standard blade, or a tapered one like the Stiletto.
    Regards,
    Peter


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    Quote Originally Posted by linesman View Post
    A friend gave me an old Mathieson wooden plane last year so I sharpened it and I use it occasionally. I was on the go with it today and thought how well it worked. It has a Mathieson and Son backing iron but a Stiletto brand blade. A web search tells me the Stiletto tool Co started in Sacramento US in 1848 and still makes tools today. Can any one tell me if Stiletto made complete planes or only blades?
    Barry
    Hi Barry

    This is not a "hybrid" plane but a Mathieson with a replaced blade, one from a Stilletto plane. That it works well is all that is important. Because of that I would not be concerned and just use it as-is.

    However the question I have - just my curiosity - is whether the blade is a "parallel" type (that is, an even thickness along its length) or a "tapered" blade (where the business end is significantly thicker than the other end). The Mathieson should have a tapered blade to work at its best. This would close up the mouth and reduce the possibility of tearout.

    If you wanted to change the blade, I would look for a tapered blade of the same width from any maker ... althogh Mathieson blades are fairly common at swap meets or eBay. Just be aware that the length of a tapered blade often dictates the thickness at the bevel end, and you want one that will fill the mouth. Still, both opening or closing the mouth are easy enough should this needed.

    But, to repeat, if the plane is working to your satisfaction, then just use it as-is.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek
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    Derek, thanks for the great response. My original post was really out of curiosity, after all I'd never want to fix anything that works well. Yes, it is a tapered blade and it appears to hold its edge well. You're right, I was thinking of closing up the mouth a little as it does look like someone in the past has refaced the sole of the plane which in turn would have opened the mouth. Thanks to everybody for their response.
    Barry

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