Thread: Ian's Saws.

Hi Tom

Would I lie or did I exaggerate?



Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by derekcohen

Hi Tom

Would I lie or did I exaggerate?



Regards from Perth

Derek

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...................

Hi SG,

wow, these are nice! Love the walnut and the polished heavy back on the dove tail saw.


Is Ian selling them? Then I would like to add him to the list of sawmakers.

Btw, I cannot find the other closed thread you are writing about.

Cheers Pedder

Originally Posted by pedder

Hi SG,

wow, these are nice! Love the walnut and the polished heavy back on the dove tail saw.


Is Ian selling them? Then I would like to add him to the list of sawmakers.

Btw, I cannot find the other closed thread you are writing about.

Cheers Pedder

Thanks Pedder,
I got lucky I think.
Ian made a bunch of saws and decided to sell some.
This is the thread (which was closed after they sold I guess):
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f221/b...d-saws-109512/

Derek reviewed one here
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/c...-early-109348/
and we all got excited when Ian offered some for sale.
I think he said that his wife would like him to make some more because she likes them so much. (or words to that effect )
Anyway when they cut, the wood doesn't even feel it - it is so effortless.
Ian has done something special with these.
Once again
Mucho mucho gratias.
SG

Hi SG,

now I know what happened, I never have watched an other Forum than handtools.

Now that I've seen Ians prices I know that he does not sell them. He gives them away. You're very lucky!

Cheers
Pedder

Ian's saws arrived in the mail today.
What can I say....
Lovely, the little canted blade DT saw in particular is ......sweet.
Ian has done a great job, as usual, on the handle but...
I think he has got the shapening on this thing down pat. It works and works well.

I'll have a more serious play in the next day or so and take a few pics.
But here is Ian's original pic just to remind you of how lucky I feel today.

I agree with Pedder and Derek here...Ian you have given them away. The little DT is a sure fire winner and I hope that I can sharpen it half as well when the time comes.

Thank you so much Ian.

Well, I'm just relieved they arrived safely & that they are up to expectations. If both seller & buyer are happy, it's got to be a good deal!

I am definitely retiring from sawmaking - have used up the last of my brass stock, remaking an old saw (which I am about to post on the "Christmas came early" thread as a final wrap-up). I now intend to concentrate on fitting out my new desk, plus making a cedar chest of drawers & a cheval mirror for LOML (all ordered by Christmas!). But above all, I will really enjoy using my own new saws - hard to beat tools that you make for yourself that actually work well.

If the sawmaking bug bites me again, maybe the best way to work it off is to have another sawmaking workshop.......

Cheers,
(and yep - it's up to you blokes to maintain 'em now. )

You're kidding me, they are fantastic, what a great job, and SG and Kev you guys got so lucky to knab them quickly they wouldn't have lasted long. Great job Ian.

Itf the cutting is as good as the looks then that is fantastic.

Ian, Scribbly, Derek, Kev and all

Loved this thread and the craftsmanship and passion behind the comments.

My learning curve is mainly upwards, but sometimes I despair at its lack of steepness! Still, I try.... One thing I have learned is that I should not have bought all those "special offer" junk tools, but a quarter of the number of good quality stuff. That's learning.

One small question on saw handles. What are the pros and cons of 'open' versus 'closed' saw handles (as pictured) and which do you prefer.

Cheers

Graeme

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

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One small question on saw handles. What are the pros and cons of 'open' versus 'closed' saw handles (as pictured) and which do you prefer.

Cheers

Graeme

Graeme - about the only reason I can think of is that open handles can have small cheeks & so suit small saws. Closed handles are perhaps a bit more structurally sound, but a bit bulkier, so not so suitable for small (narrow-bladed) saws.

Having said that, I haven't seen many totally busted handles - the most common trauma by far is a broken top horn.

I suspect the main reason to choose either has more to do with aesthetics than function. (Well, it does for me..... )

Cheers,

Originally Posted by IanW

I am definitely retiring from sawmaking - have used up the last of my brass stock

Not a worry, I can send you some

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Ian, Scribbly, Derek, Kev and all

One small question on saw handles. What are the pros and cons of 'open' versus 'closed' saw handles (as pictured) and which do you prefer.

Cheers

Graeme

Hi Graeme,

As a rule the type of handle is a function of hang angle, which in turn is a function of length. Short saws == high hang angles == open handles, Long Saws == lower hang angle == closed handle.

As for all generalizations there is a lot of cross over in the middle ground, say the range 12-14" there are both.

There are lots of examples of closed handle shorter joinery saws (Disston 4's for example) , but there seems to be fewer instances of longer saws with open handles. I can't think of any 14" or longer joinery saws with open handles.

The "why is it so?" I'll throw open to discussion, but I think simple mechanical robustness is a factor, plus a good dose of historical tradition.

Hope that confuses the issue sufficiently...

Regards
Ray

Hi Ray

I would argue that that closed handles are chosen more on mechanical grounds than ergonomic. No doubt that hang is a big part, since you want a lower hang on a longer blade to create a lower centre of effort (i.e. get behind the blade and push more efficiently). However the extra "shove" also involves bigger stresses, I reason. Hence the closed design for greater strength.

Theorising in Perth

Derek