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    Default Ibbotson tool mdeallion

    HI everyone,

    For some of you saw or old tool gurus.

    I have been asked to help in identifying this medallion. It was found in an archaeological context in a cave dig in southern Minnesota USA. Of interest would be information about the maker and tool it came from (saw?). If possible the range of years that this medallion would have been produced would help in the dating of this layer of the dig. From other material found near it we believe it to be about 1900. The medallion is bronze one inch in diameter and the post on the back side is 3/16 inch square and has been slightly twisted. There are no threads on the end of it as they were most likely twisted off.

    I have a link to a photo of the medallion at the end of this post. Here is the description sent to me.

    "Hello Dennis and any other interested parties.

    I was able to scan the Ibbotson Brothers medallion that we found in
    sinkhole D4971 in the Cherry Grove Blind Valley SNA on May 30 2009. The
    image is pasted below. The medallion is 26 mm in diameter (~ 1 inch in
    diameter). Any thoughts or information that any one can provide on when
    this medallion was made will be much appreciated.

    The printing and figure on the metallion are raised above a flat
    background. When I first looked at this image my eyes wanted to see the
    letters and figure in negative relief or imprinted into the metal..
    When I started from the bottom and imagined that it is lighted from the
    lower right side, my eyes finally see it correctly.

    I am not sure who the figure is. He is wearing what looks like a
    Greek or Roman helmet, is clothed only in the helmet and a cloak over
    his shoulders and sandals and is riding bare back on a horse. He is
    holding a short sword and is killing something with wings on the ground
    (a dragon?, a griffin?, or some other mythical flying beast?) It looks
    more like a Greek cavalry soldier image."

    The image on the medallion does not match any that I have found on the web for the the Ibbotson Bros. company. This is the photo of the medallion that was emailed to me. Any help or ideas about the medallion or the tool that it may have come from would be much appreciated.

    Thanks much
    Dennis
    http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu32/dennyom/IbbotsonBros2-1.jpg

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    Hi Dennis,

    It's going to be a bit of a lucky dip trying to get an accurate date, Ibbotson Brothers was one of the very few Sheffield manufacturers
    that survived for a very long period of time, from the 1820's through to 1940's, the medallion as described sounds like it could be
    a label screw from a handsaw.

    Here is an advertisement from Kellys 1881 trade directory, which confirms that the medallion is from a tool
    made by the Ibbotson Brothers Sheffield Globe Works.



    Regards
    Ray

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    Default Ibbotson medallion

    Thanks Ray, the depiction of St. George and the dragon on the medallion is not the usual design on Ibbotson saw handles that I have been able to see. Most are the circle with the word globe in the center like the left one on the photo that you posted. This medalloin looks to be more elaborate which is why I thought perhaps it could be more closely dated.

    Dennis


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