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26th March 2006, 03:03 PM #1
Can anyone identify these parts ?.
Hi, having a little purge of the shed again.
Having trouble identifying these parts. Probably sell them off, if their worth anything.
Picture 1 and 2 - looks like some kind of saw set. The head swivels on it, and the main rail thing has a slot, that I guess holds the saw ...maybe twist onto the teeth somehow ? don't know.
picture 3 - Some are old brace bits I guess. uno, by the look of those tapered ends. Maybe something rectangular goes into the end of some, and the brace is used to twist them up. Twisting wire ? string ? don't know either.
picture 4 - These came from an ebay sale. The seller grouped them all as 'stanley 55 parts' which turned out to be not entirely correct. These are the parts from that sale I couldn't identify. Pretty shore their not stanley 55 parts. Ring any bells ?
Thanks.
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26th March 2006, 03:10 PM #2
pic 1: a guide for a file, for saw sharpening? If so, give me a yell if you want to sell it.
pic 3: the "cone with a slot up the side" it rounds the end of a dowel to a point? (pic 3, second from the right)
pic 3: the bottom one. the jaws look like the ones out of an old drill brace, except they don't pivot. To hold a drill bit is what I am thinking, but why?
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26th March 2006, 03:14 PM #3
yep, Thats right. I should have recognised the dowel one. ..... The stuff in the 4th picture I'm most curious about.
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26th March 2006, 03:15 PM #4
What's the patent number on that last piece? I agree with Clinton's assesment. The first one allows the user to set the filing angle for sharpening handsaws-the trinagular file rides in the little wheels.
Greg
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26th March 2006, 03:15 PM #5
Pic one and two appear to be a filing guide for small saw teeth (tenon/gents saw?), I'm pretty sure of that, in fact, I am willing to bet Al's leftie on it .
Pic 3 looks like wire (fencing?) tools and pic 4 - no idea.
BTW, I'd hazard a guess that some of the square looking heads are to drive nuts onto a thread - the old style heavy square nuts - using a brace'bit.
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26th March 2006, 03:28 PM #6
I'd say you guys have nailed it. I didn't think of a file riding on the wheels. Looks like it might be worth keeping, if it means I can sharpen small teeth, which I can't do well enough freehand. It musn't ever been used, cause there's no wear marks on the wheels, which I'd imagine it would get with a file running over it.
That thing in picture 4 has US.PAT.10-31-16. printed on it, Greg.
On the other side theres a thumbscrew.
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26th March 2006, 04:13 PM #7
The US PAT office wasn't very helpful with that number, and since I am throttled back to 64bps (thanks for nuthin' Telstra) I wasn't going to push the enquiries.
Stanley Blood and Gore's expanded picture of the #55 seems to indicate that only the knurled nut seems to belong to the plane.
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26th March 2006, 04:47 PM #8
G'day,
3rd pic 2nd from left it's a bottle opener with two prongs to turn the steak over on your BBQ job.
Or if you're drink your beer from a can, you pop the top and jab the prongs in the bottom of the can so you skull it down real fast
Righto off to the fridge I go for a coldie.
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26th March 2006, 08:31 PM #9Member
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The octoganal post with the notch in pic 4 looks like the post of a router V-point blade - minus the actual cutter. The square wotsits with the square tangs are drivers for square-headed bolts, as recently discussed on the Old Tools List. The patent date didn't pop anything up on Datamp but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Searching the US patent office is slow and laborious, but patent number 1202800 is round about 10-31-16 is you fancy a laborious trawl through every patent issued that day in order to find it. I have done it, and on dial-up, but unless you really, really want to know...
Cheers, Alf
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26th March 2006, 08:40 PM #10
Stanley had a patent on 31 Oct 1916 for a length stop for mitre boxes.
patent number 1,203,417
I can't find any other Stanley patents issued on that date.
source: "Antique and Collectable Stanley Tools" John Walter
Cheers
Greg
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26th March 2006, 09:26 PM #11
Thanks everyone. Pretty much solved. Still can't picture how the length stop for mitre boxes would work. I'll look into that.
Thanks again for the help.
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26th March 2006, 09:39 PM #12Member
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Originally Posted by gregoryq
Cheers, Alf
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26th March 2006, 09:52 PM #13
More info for you on the mitre box caper:
Stanley apparently had this patent apply to is mitre boxes numbers
240, 242, 244, 246, 358, A358, 2244, 2246 and 2358.
Also, it was Stanley's practice to remove the patent numbers from a part 13 years after a patent was awarded, because that was the duration of patent.
Doing the math, it looks like the patent on this expired two days after black Tuesday, the start of the great depression, so they might have had other things on their minds, like why they hadn't built any really tall buildings in Lock Port, Ct.
Greg, delighted to have confused the issue just a little bit more.
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26th March 2006, 09:53 PM #14
Thanks Alf and Greg! Right....so sposed to screw it into the wall of the mitre box, and just push your stock up tight to it and saw away, without having to measure anything.....bit like stop blocks in table saw sleds etc...... yes ? did I get that right ?
Uno, there's a couple of bars in the mix that I thought were stanley 55 rods. I know think they probably arn't 55 rods...more likely to go with this stop device. Check that in the morning.
A gimick do you think Alf ? or Greg ?......probably worth nothing I suppose. Or hard to value.
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26th March 2006, 09:56 PM #15
I'd list them on eBay, shipping worldwide to get the Americans too. List what we collectively know, and let the market decide. Somewhere there's a mitre box expert with a fetish who needs these parts-you might get lucky
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