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    Default L & IJ White Co. Edge Tools

    A thread by Scribbly Gum on chisels reminded me that recently I stumbled upon a manufacturer I had not heard of before. Admittedly I have just emerged from my cave in a determined endeavour to get out more. The company's name is L & IJ White Co from Buffalo in NY. They manufactured a range of products under the name of "Edge Tools."

    Nothing particularly spectacular about that. Many companies abounded at the turn of the 19th century. This one dates from 1909, or at least the catalogue does, and they specialised in chisels, adzes and axes as well as coopers' and butcher's tools. The first seventy odd pages were dedicated to a range of chisels. Seventy pages: I thought that was unusual! I have reproduced some of the items below as examples and in some instances where I had not heard the descriptions before. ( I do have to get out more).

    1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Catalogue.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Ship carpenter's.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Slicks.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Tang butt.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Trowel shank.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Coach maker's.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Turning.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo Turning 2.jpg1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo scrapers and scorp.jpg

    The last one crept in here ( I was going to include it in the second post). They made a large range of scorps, drawknives and shaves too. Click on the pix to see them more clearly.

    If you wish to know more, you can view the catalogue in the International Tool Catalogue Library. Free to join if you are not already registered.

    1909 White Edge Tools Buffalo NY : L. & I.J. White Company of Buffalo New York USA : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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    The turners hustler chisel was a new one for me. Looks like a square channel gouge in the picture. Anyone know anything about them.
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    A drawknife/spokeshave/shave similar to the picture of the wagonmakers drawknife was featured in IanW's thread HERE

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    Quote Originally Posted by orraloon View Post
    The turners hustler chisel was a new one for me. Looks like a square channel gouge in the picture. Anyone know anything about them.
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    Hello John, it's the older style Spindle gouge, now known as Long and Strong's. I use a carbon steel version on softwoods. Of course, the apprentice would have spent a few hours grinding the edge . . .
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    A very quick count and rough only, for those of you who might have scurrilously thought I was exaggerating, is as follows:

    50 models of chisel
    20 Adzes
    Plane irons (didn't count those)
    5 Axes
    18 Draw knives and shaves
    17 butchers' axes.

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    That's a great resource Paul.
    Thanks for posting this.
    Jim Bassett wrote a book on American chisels and of course L & I J White are included.
    He spent a long time hardness testing the various brands and ranked them according to their hardness and ease of sharpening.
    Whites were in the lower category of hardness and were among the easiest to sharpen.
    That's not to demean them, they tested at around 58 on the Rockwell scale and are more sought after than some other well known US brands - less so than some others.
    In short, they are good chisels
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    I love the "Internet Archive". There's heaps of great old newspapers, documents and books, including many tool catalogues. And that's just book section. There's old images, software, audio and video files as well.

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    Tom

    Thanks for that additional information. The Tool Catalogue library is indeed a fabulous resource, well, for me it is, but a word of caution when executing searches. The search mode is really pernickety: As in pedantically pernickety! For example, I was researching Simonds saws when I spotted the Edge Tool catalogue and I don't know why that was there. It just was. Sitting as the last entry.

    The example I will give is that if you put "Simonds Saw" in the search it will bring up two of the available catalogues. If you enter "Simonds Saws" it will find four catalogues. Just bear this in mind if you are researching and don't give up straight away if it does not return a result.

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    Paul, I haven't researched the term, but "slick" seems to be a North American name for those whopper long-handled paring chisels (much-used by heavy-timber framers). I'd not heard the term before I lived in Canada. However, it may well be a very old name that was taken to the 'new world' & persisted there but fell out of common usage in Britain. There are quite a few words like that....

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