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4th November 2012, 03:29 PM #1
Saw Report 2
The first thread kinda coincided with my first big box from the US ... so ... here we go again
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Later I'll get around to the till ... but the first saw I took out was a real treat.
I mentioned before that - although I have a *very* nice 371 - Josh at Hyperkitten had a beautiful Simonds 371 "Blue Ribbon" with the factory blue etch - I found out about it about a month later - it probably lasted about 5 seconds
The first saw I took out was a Simonds - and as I cleaned it up to find the etch I found it was a 372 ... and still had some of the blue etch.
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The second was a plainer Simonds 8-1/2
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4th November 2012, 03:59 PM #2
A well-worn Simonds-manufactured saw, made for a retailer ...
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A Harvey Peace 35 - also with another brand. This is 5ppi and simple and solid like a Disston #7 or #8 - I used it with a #12 to cut the Huon Pine slab.
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Initially it looked like shipping saws was going to be a problem because of the length - so I started asking vendors to remove the handles if they could. Luckily soon after a 36" box became an option - but this saw was separate to the handle in the box.
Its the first time I have looked at the early type of saw nuts ... although I had read that they were more delicate and due some respect if trying to undo them. The newer style(s) was/were patented in the late 1800s ... this is two pairs side-by-side.
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4th November 2012, 04:25 PM #3
Four saws - a "W Wilkins" (american) warranted superior, a D8, a #12, and a small Richardson.
This is the 5ppi #12 that I used with the HP on the Huon Pine. The #12 has a thinner, more flexible plate than the simple, solid HP saw.
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Two #12s that came from Josh at Hyperkitten.
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4th November 2012, 04:47 PM #4
These four items sold together - two pretty standard D8s and a very curious saw. The saw blade is a Simonds - I can't tell what type number - but it seems like it is significantly covered in what might be hammer marks. I can't see it being a type of rust-pitting ... there is a geometry to the markings. Also the handle has been made by a previous owner. It is close to a factory D8-style handle but made from a solid, heavy material. I'm not sure if it could be applewood - it is smooth and dense, but not like any other handle I have. You could imagine a heavy mdf, but I am sure it is timber. I tried sanding it a bit on the top and reverse to reveal some grain. It also has a Disston medallion
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4th November 2012, 05:30 PM #5
This nest of saws all came from the one owner - and I thought how rarely that opportunity arises.
Having now received the box and given a first look to the saws, I'm very pleased to have bought it.
Most of them have been sharpened to work.
It will also be interesting to closely examine the sharpened teeth to see what there is to learn there.
The 5-1/2ppi #12 is the first saw I used on the Huon Pine slab to mark out and start.
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4th November 2012, 11:22 PM #6
Saw Report 2
Some sweet saws there, Paul
There is certainly no questioning your commitment to the cause. A few of us have wondered why you need so many but you'll have the last laugh, I think, when you sift out and polish up the real gems.
Besides, I think this all just a canny investment strategy and when you own ALL the saws you can sell off the busted rusty no-names for hundreds a piece.
Cheers
Matt...I'll just make the other bits smaller.
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5th November 2012, 12:34 AM #7
I'm close to being done - although I don't know anything about UK saws - hmmm ...
Also there is a big delay factor ... the first Simonds saw was bought in May!
They are all individuals - and don't take up too much space - that saw till had 10 in it for example.
At some stage I'll have excess to put out cheap to good homes - but I don't know enough about them all yet
Cheers,
Paul
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5th November 2012, 01:12 AM #8
I ran out of go juice ... here's the till contents ... it was made from plywood, pine and nails.
They are almost all sharpened - not sure yet whether by hand or machine - but not gleaming and new-looking.
Consequently, I'm not yet sure whether to preserve them in the state they are now or to clean them.
These saws were workers.
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Two D20-23 types, and two English-style saws. The flattened handle style is earlier - no markings.
The other is stamped twice. I understand that the heavy impression is made by stamping the 'raw' saw before hardening, and the lighter one is stamped afterwards.
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A #12, a #7 with a broken handle, and an unidentified blade with an unassociated D2x-style handle.
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Another #12 - damn and bother - a D8 and a D7.
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20th August 2014, 12:13 AM #9
[QUOTE=pmcgee;1571751]These four items sold together - two pretty standard D8s and a very curious saw. The saw blade is a Simonds - I can't tell what type number - but it seems like it is significantly covered in what might be hammer marks. I can't see it being a type of rust-pitting ... there is a geometry to the markings. Also the handle has been made by a previous owner. It is close to a factory D8-style handle but made from a solid, heavy material. I'm not sure if it could be applewood - it is smooth and dense, but not like any other handle I have. You could imagine a heavy mdf, but I am sure it is timber. I tried sanding it a bit on the top and reverse to reveal some grain. It also has a Disston medallion
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Paul
Again, very belatedly: Assuming that there are only two etches (in other words, not a 60 or 70 series Blue Ribbon saw) It would be a No.10 1/2. All the others using this saw nut pattern were straight back saws. In fact the No.10 1/2 used also another pattern, but yours dates from the 1919 catalogue.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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