Thread: Lie-Nielsen Chisels

Nar, my guess is that they looked at the books and figured out what it was actually costing to produce them now..

Actually, now that I look at it I can't see a price jump? maybe I'm not looking hard enough

Originally Posted by DSEL74

I was doing my usual web browsing aka dream, window shopping and I was looking at Lie-Nielsen chisels after using Ian's ones yesterday in the backsaw making workshop.

Now the price is what stuck me as odd and maybe people know the history here, i don't. No I'm not referring to the fact you can buy something in the USA vs Australia and pricing. I was reading reviews on the Chisels and it seems the price of the 5 Piece set has jumped about $100 from when it first came out. Is this purely a popularity & demand so we charge more scenario or is there something more. Yes I do know there are to different steel types available.

Are you sure?

I did a quick google and came up with three prices for the bevel edge 5-chisel set with hornbeam handles:

US$275 on Lie Nielsen US website,

£296 at Axminster - seems expensive!

Aus$340 post free from Henry Eckert in either A2 or O1 steel. This seems a quite competitive price.




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Graeme

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Are you sure?

I did a quick google and came up with three prices for the bevel edge 5-chisel set with hornbeam handles:

US$275 on Lie Nielsen US website,

£296 at Axminster - seems expensive!

Aus$340 post free from Henry Eckert in either A2 or O1 steel. This seems a quite competitive price.




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Graeme

According to the reviews I read from when they first came out they were much cheaper price was listed in the review. Can't find the link now.

Originally Posted by DSEL74

According to the reviews I read from when they first came out they were much cheaper price was listed in the review. Can't find the link now.

Are you really sure?

They were US$250 way back in 2004.
Lie-Nielsen Chisels | Fine Woodworking Knots




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Graeme

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Are you really sure?

They were US$250 way back in 2004.
Lie-Nielsen Chisels | Fine Woodworking Knots




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Graeme

Not so sure, you got me doubting myself now.

They have gone up obviously but maybe only 10% not as much as I thought.

Originally Posted by DSEL74

Not so sure, you got me doubting myself now.

They have gone up obviously but maybe only 10% not as much as I thought.

Yeah; I have the same issue - my wife says I have a very creative memory.

But somewhere, someone may have been discounting. Prices can sometimes be quite crazy.

Two years ago the NiCad batteries in my 20 year old small Makita 7.2 volt drill died. Both Battery World and Makita shop quoted $89 for a new battery, which my creative memory thought was more than I paid for the drill. Buy a new drill. Went along to Mitre 10 and the only small Makita was $249, repeat $249 ==> profound sticker shock. Went googling and ordered new batteries from Germany for €15, and they were Makita, not el cheapos. - arrived 6 days later!

Whenever I visited M10, I watched that particular Makita drill. Two months later the price dropped to $149, then a couple of months later it jumped to $299, then they had a promotion at $99, then it was back to $249 and then $149. Then they rearranged the store and I lost contact.




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Graeme

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Prices can sometimes be quite crazy.

Whenever I visited M10, I watched that particular Makita drill. Two months later the price dropped to $149, then a couple of months later it jumped to $299, then they had a promotion at $99, then it was back to $249 then they rearranged the store and I lost contact.
Graeme
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Could it be because the Japanese word "Makita" means "due North" which is where nearly all prices go eventually! Cop a decco at the latest Titan prices on the Bay. $200 plus plus is a regular thing for perceived rare ones.

Originally Posted by Doggie

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Prices can sometimes be quite crazy.

Whenever I visited M10, I watched that particular Makita drill. Two months later the price dropped to $149, then a couple of months later it jumped to $299, then they had a promotion at $99, then it was back to $249 then they rearranged the store and I lost contact.
Graeme

Could it be because the Japanese word "Makita" means "due North" which is where nearly all prices go eventually! Cop a decco at the latest Titan prices on the Bay. $200 plus plus is a regular thing for perceived rare ones.[/QUOTE]



Getting a bit off topic but did you know the the japanese language is basically picturegraphs. Some have very funny stories oh how the depict something. North as show in Kanji here, is a man and a woman sitting back to back with a gap between them. So imagine a stick figure sitting legs out on the floor, the vertical is the back the blob to the top of the stroke the head and the arms out straight. So how doe these two people represent north?? The two people man and woman a facing away from each other and apart, basically they had a fight and are angry. The gap represents the cold air between them, In japan the wind from the north is cold. Therefore we have north!! I told you they had some funny ways to get to the point.


Wood looks like a tree, many wood is a forest, forest with a square around it is a field.
Water is two straight long parallel lines with a small dash between them. River banks and the dash is a wave in the water.
Water


Tree, Woods, Forrest.



Some are much more logical.




Also the symbol now most recognised as the Nazi Swastika, was before the war a symbol of good luck, and many brides wore them in Australia along with lace horse shoes etc. It is actually the first written "word" and it symbolised/mean't meeting place. The image is two cross roads meeting at a point.


Many years ago I studied under a japanese professor who was the world authority of the origins of the written language and was correcting a lot of texts on the evolution of japanese language. I was supposed to be learning to read and write japanese but it always ended up being a history lesson, but it was interesting. Funnily enough I can only remember how to count to 10 in one form, (japanese has different number systems for long objects, round, objects, repetitive actions etc.) and his lessons.




Some principals are obviously outdated!!!!

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Went googling and ordered new batteries from Germany for €15, and they were Makita, not el cheapos. - arrived 6 days later!

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Graeme

My Makita batteries have also died and I have been putting off the replacements due to cost etc. Do you have a link to the German website Graeme?

Perhaps off-topic, but absolutely fascinating.

Originally Posted by DSEL74

Tree, Woods, Forrest.

I get the hang of it now.

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Stick of timber




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Graeme

Originally Posted by cava

My Makita batteries have also died and I have been putting off the replacements due to cost etc. Do you have a link to the German website Graeme?

Sorry, Cava. Back in April I had a hard disk failure (total) and lost all my memory. Never thought to back up emails!

Just do an Advanced search for Makita Battery specifying English language (unless you can read German) and country as Germany. Batteries for some unknown reason almost always tend to be very well priced in Germany. Good luck.




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Graeme

The nazi symbol is also a copy of the Indian Hindu symbol

My Chinese teacher told me similar tales, but it was the Chinese who invented the symbols. Like you I can only remember a few, but the stories were fantastic. I think it was Jia ( family/home) that was a pig under the roof. Great language, a real challenge to learn to speak and almost impossible to learn to read if you are chronologically challenged as I am.

still it come in handy in Sydney these days.

cheers,
Peter

Originally Posted by Peter57

My Chinese teacher told me similar tales, but it was the Chinese who invented the symbols. Like you I can only remember a few, but the stories were fantastic. I think it was Jia ( family/home) that was a pig under the roof. Great language, a real challenge to learn to speak and almost impossible to learn to read if you are chronologically challenged as I am.

still it come in handy in Sydney these days.

cheers,
Peter

The japanese language and Chinese language have the same origins. Back in the day China used to be known as the land of the setting sun, and they sent an emissary to Japan who read out an invitation to the Japanese Emperor and the invitation had a big long fancy title at the that went on for like five minutes, the really short version being Emperor of the land of the setting sun. To try and save face the Japanese emperor had to come up with an equally long and impressive title for his acceptance and came up with the land of the rising sun….Still used today hence the red sun on their flag.

Amazing the useless info we retain.