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Thread: A love of surform tools
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22nd June 2011, 08:18 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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A love of surform tools
Here's a funny story. Before I got my first plane, I was using dad's and SWMBO's late fathers auto bodywork surform style tools to clean up wood. I was quite please with the results TBH. They gave it quite a nice smooth feel and sheen. As soon as I realised it wasn't the 'proper' tool to use I stopped using them.
I've built up my plane collection since then so had them sitting aside for a few months, until I found a couple of old Stanley at the markets and picked them up cheap. They are very similar in design, do a fantastic job, and I have been using them constantly. I'm sure there are still many who will look at one and go 'surform...yuck" though.
Why do these little pieces of magic appear so underrated?. And when is it fine to use the 'wrong' tool for a job
Pretty pictures of your little stash of these wonderful tools also welcome, it would be nice to see how they have changed over time.
(and if anyone had any more unwanted or for sale, let me know please - ebay's not being helpful after I missed a set of four a few weeks ago and I'd love a couple more to use - block plane size, round, curved - it's addictive!)
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22nd June 2011, 09:39 AM #2
Well Andrew, I'll start the ball rolling....
Many years ago I had a fling with surforms (there, I've gone & admitted it! ). However, it didn't last. They are not bad tools and do a good job in some circumstances, but the reason I fell out of love with them after a while was because they are too bulky for a lot of jobs (try making a saw handle with a surform!), and often a bit too vicious. They are generally ok across the grain, but can cause terrible, almost irreparable tear-out along the grain in some woods. If you want to remove a lot of wood in a hurry from something like a large cabriole leg, & don't mind the risk, they are great. However, I have since moved on to other tools like bowsaws, spokeshaves, and good quality rasps, which can often remove waste faster, and which I find more controllable.
There's not really a 'wrong' tool for any job - whatever works, works - everyone has their favourite tools & methods. Much depends on what sorts of things you are making.
So there's my 2c.
Cheers,IW
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22nd June 2011, 01:50 PM #3Novice
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A love of surform tools
Hi Andrew
I have one that I use to rough out not too tight outside curves. One day I'll get one of those $$$$ rasps.
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22nd June 2011, 08:04 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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As long as your planes never find out you should be right
I think it might be an example of your mileage may vary - maybe my oldies are just blunt enough that they do a smoother job now, but I'm finding one does the job of a scrub plane neatly, leaving really rough stock ready for the #5 to finish it off, and that used on planed stock it near polishes the wood. That contrasts quite a bit with your experience, though I've seen some of your work on the forums so don't doubt you for one minute (love the saws on the other thread btw!)
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22nd June 2011, 09:19 PM #5
I believe you can buy the Microplane inserts for the surform
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Nick
veni, vidi, tornavi
Without wood it's just ...
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23rd June 2011, 07:55 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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That could be interesting, I wonder how much difference they would make. Their cheese graters are excellent.
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