Thread: Where to find molding planes

I don't mean to rub anyone the wrong way had I known these places existed I would of gone there btw a neat little trick with those google searches very impressive indeed. What I'm looking for is a roman ogee and an ogee with fillet, these two I use the most on bases, now it's important to understand why I didn't reply because I haven't the faintest idea exactly what to look for in a moulding plane and if those profiles are available or not. I kept quiet because I have spent a fortune on LN and Veritas tools and cannot afford to have someone make these for me. I have seen the waiting list and the price associated and I did not want to string anyone along. If I can buy them cheaply great if not I would then prefer to make my own.

The idea here is to switch from machinery to hand tools only, the moulding planes I want to replace my deafening router and from what I've seen on youtube they all plane with the grain but can it plain across the grain. I'm inclined to think it could but ain't sure.

So I didn't answer not because I was trying to be rude but hesitant due to lack of knowledge and funds and with my abrupt remark being a melbournite where it's a lot of easier to find things you want but never been the case with Qld. It's hard to know where these places are if you don't know they exist, Carrara markets had a tool guy long ago but he's dissapeared how am I supposed to know where he's gone too since no one I've spoken to does.

section1, for some reason my reply was not formatted, and this one might be the same...just running words without para's etc. Because I have a web page on old tools, every couple of days I get email questions like...."what's a green blurf worth, I just found one in a garage ?" I rarely reply, because if I have to ask 20 questions since so little information was offered in the first question, I loose interest quickly. Sometimes I get a full description, a couple pictures, and a clear indication of what the owner wants to do with the tools...buy, sell, insure, give away etc. Then I get the two fingers going and type a reply. If it is a question that google will answer, I do the Let Me Google That for You, and send it back to them. Since your last reply, I/we have a better idea of what it is you ACTUALLY need. Perhaps a new topic starting with that info will get a discussion going, instead of ending up like we just did. If that is the case, it may be a great way of introducing yourself to the users of moulding planes by giving more info that a simple "where can I get it?" question. I'm certain they would have been happy to help...but we cannot read what isn't written. Regards, Peter...... yep, it won't format the reply...mods can you help me?

Look I'm reviewing stu's website and am also reviewing all his links but I specifically asked where can I get them and I should of been clear on this, is there a shop where I can physically pick them up look at them see how they feel and so forth and physically speak to someone rather than going backwards and forwards with emails call me old fashioned but that's how I prefer to do business. If there is no option other than to go through a website then so be it.

Like I said I'm not here to muck anyone about but I would prefer to see the items myself and query the seller before I make my purchases. I need to know for certain what I'm buying will suit my purpose and I will be happy with my purchase. Also to add to that list I am on the hunt for two disston saws 24"-28" rip 4tpi and a cross cut panel 24" 8tpi, to add to that I also want a 10-12" preferrably 12" brace with a chuck that will take both traditional square tapered shanks and round shank bits and with wooden handles no rust buckets either, a hand drill millers preferrably but all these things I prefer to see with my own eyes.

I have many other tools I purchased from LN and Veritas including the latest version of the new extension kit for tongue and groove for the small plow plane that isn't available in Australia, yes I would like to have seen this for myself but the option wasn't there and I've taken a punt and please do not take any of this the wrong way I don't distrust anyone on this forum especially the sellers but I just prefer the old school method to the ebay method if I can.

I will start a new topic and get as much info as I can.

Originally Posted by section1

I don't mean to rub anyone the wrong way

What I'm looking for is a roman ogee and an ogee with fillet,

If I can buy them cheaply great if not I would then prefer to make my own.

Good to know your needs here section 1 , moulding planes are a favorite of mine.
And I'm sure you have not rubbed any one up the wrong way , you have just scratched the surface of an interesting subject ,and for possibly different reasons we want to know more.

Roman ogee's are a hard one to find , I would pick up 25 to 50 Grecian ogees to every one roman. It's a beautiful shape to have because they were used on some fine furniture from small sizes to large. I like the way they were used on Oak furniture around the mid 18th century. And under the rail on joint stools sometimes. I pieced together a rough set over 20 years on the cheap, some work and some will never work looking like they were left in the bottom of a chicken coop . I still bought the rough ones because I just have not seen many.

If some one pops up here with some your in luck, but the place where I have seen them most is ebay in the UK which means expensive postage. Also with buying moulding planes ,they do not always work well and may need a bit of work changing their originality. Making working ones would be good too, I did a French style mould once in a 18th century English style plane ,took me about 6 hours I think and did not work to well . I will need to work out a better technique.

Good luck with it and if you make some I will point out where I went wrong , timing is not so good ATM because of holidays.

Rob

Thanks Rob for your insight I don't know why I was thinking they wouldn't be hard to make maybe their simple design is what fooled me but I know the difficulty is in profiling the blade and getting it sharp. But like everything it's all a learning curve.

I know you can buy them cheaply enough on ebay but like you pointed out some just don't work and money no matter how little you spend doesn't grow on trees either, if it did we would all have a surpless of trees with no woodworkers either so thank God they don't grow on trees. lol

I'm not a tool collector everything I own I use I think Rob Cossman said the same thing in one of his videos so that's why it's so important to me that whatever I purchase be it new or antique performs it's intended function.

I'll add that if you're making your own, the spring angle and boxing, if necessary, are critical components.

I've got a couple of roman ogee and astragal in poor condition that someday I WILL get around to cleaning up properly, but I'm not keen to sell them. However if you want to drop around some time and take a look you are welcome. I'm just an amateur hacker however with a collection of rust not premium tools.

I do have a matched set of Canada Disston rip and crosscut saws in an original canvas holster that I'd be willing to sell but I haven't thought about a price.

Here's a couple of pics of the D8's. A 28" 4tpi rip with thumb hole and a 26" 7tpi crosscut and their canvas holster. The 28 has a slight bow along the teeth but the back is straight. It might be just a result of a poor set, but I'm no saw doctor, somebody else might know how to correct that.

I'm having a hard time working out a price, but I'm thinking about $160 for the pair looks average.

I'm no pro when it comes to sharpening and setting teeth that's another thing I'm going to have to learn but I'm after a d9 besides I think they're a little pricy. I saw some on the net but they're in US completely re done and comes with a money back guarantee for $100 that seems a better option for me. Unless one knows what to look for in a saw its easy to get burnt, there are kits available as well if you know how to set teeth file and so forth.

I have a 26" Sandvik panel combination saw, but combinations isn't ideal ideally it should be set to either rip or crosscut. I got it checked out and I was told its a high quality saw but I need to set the teeth to either rip or crosscut which I will do once I learn how to do it. Still though I would love to have a gold old Disston that's tapered a late 1800's would be really nice.

Do you know any markets on the Gold Coast or Brisbane that sells antique tools.