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    Thank you gentlemen (says a little less ignorant me)
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    Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinton1 View Post
    I felt like I should run away, like a scalded cat, when I got these for $55.
    5 x Disston's (and they all look like the etch will come up),
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    The thumbhole saw looks like a very full blade. It should still have the point size stamped at the heel.

    Does the handle have a 'black lacquer' sort of finish?

    The medallion certainly looks Disston, but otherwise I would have thought Spear & Jackson with the black handle.

    I'll put in a request for more detailed photos if you're so inclined

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    Disston made "butchers" saws, "pruning" saws, and "kitchen" saws, that were all very similar, look HERE.

    Other saw makers did the same thing.

    There is probably a name or no. on it somewhere.

    Nice haul whatever it is!

    Toby

    P.S. Oh yeah, they made hack saws too! At the end of that catalog they list the blades too, might help ID the saw.

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    I could not go to the HTPAA tool sale last weekend.
    I had been tricked into a weekend away relaxing with the missus { SWMBO } to celebrate our Birthdays .
    Not intentionally tricked out of one of my favorite nights of the year, it was my own fault , I have never been able to maintain the habit of using a dairy, so I tricked myself

    I spotted these on eBay in the UK and knowing I was missing the tool sale and thinking I can buy myself a present once in a while I manage to justify in my own mind spending a little and gaining a lot.
    This matching set of nine Side Beads To me was a chance to good to miss.
    They are by king and Company of Hull 1881 to 1907.
    I had the two larger size ones around the wrong way for the picture by mistake.

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    It's not Monday and I didn't go shopping so I guess that is two rules broken. Buuuuut....... today I had to do a trip south to drop a tonne of materials off for next weeks renovations. I was by myself so took the opportunity to swing into a couple of tips on the way home, this is what I got. The mattock is Hytest and never been used, the plane is a 220 and the stanley brace I jumped on as I have the same model in far better condition and the jaw in it is broken. The small blcksmiths hammer is a beauty. The rest is just old stuff that will probably find its way into the garden that I could not bear to see buried.

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    So to make my last post a bit more exciting I have this to add.

    The 220 is a perfect match for my 1897 patent 60. It is a 1897 patent "B" casting which I believe makes it a 1899-1902 manufacture. It has a perfect mouth, heal and toe and the rust is relatively new surface with no pitting. The bad, it has a broken adjuster wheel, is missing the cam lock on the lever cap, needs it's threds unseized and needs a new knob.

    Happy me

    Question, does anyone know if these cams are legit and has anyone used one? (I have ordered one anyway before you all jump on them)

    Stanley Cam & Rivet for 220, 12-220, 12-020, 9 1/2 Block Plane , NOS | eBay

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    Default Carter C5 1/2

    Picked this up on Sunday at the meets. Never seen one before.Its a bit rough but will probably clean up well. Plus a handlful of chisels all for $30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deesinister View Post
    Picked this up on Sunday at the meets. ...all for $30.
    Well, I don't desire Carter planes 'cause they're a bit rough and I don't like the frogs (and I'm not an Aussie, so no obligation to be loyal). But Scribbly reckons they have damn good irons, so well done. The chisels look nice too.

    So $30 for a good plane iron and 4 chisels - well done (and if the plane works for you, you've done even better).

    I must admit to looking twice at a Carter C10 bench rabbet though...

    Cheers, Vann.
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    There was the Brown's Tool auction in the US in April ... and yesterday I received a box.
    Good guys - good packaging.
    Inside ...

    (I honestly wasn't thinking of this when I was talking/asking about hammer-setting handsaws recently)
    A foot/spring operated hammer-set ...

    arrive 060513 001.jpg arrive 060513 002.jpg arrive 060513 003.jpg

    Also - among some others - these two CE Atkins #53 saws ... 8pt crosscut and 5-1/2pt ripsaw.
    The floral pattern is embossed, so it is later than the hand chip-carved saws ... maybe 1920/30 ?
    I seem to be 'collecting' a few 'prettier' saws recently ... better watch that lest it become a habit.

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    arrive 060513 009.jpg arrive 060513 007.jpg

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deesinister View Post
    Picked this up on Sunday at the meets. Never seen one before.Its a bit rough but will probably clean up well.
    The Carters and Falcons I have are heftier and solider than the Stanleys.
    Some bad words have been spoken of them by some people on this forum ... no names (*cough*auscab) ... but they are probably troubled individuals who came from broken homes.


    Nice score.
    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deesinister View Post
    Picked this up on Sunday at the meets. Never seen one before.Its a bit rough but will probably clean up well. Plus a handlful of chisels all for $30.
    OH my dog!
    A Carter C5-1/2 - a very rare beast indeed, and in excellent restorable to working condition. Top find.
    The chisels are all good ones.
    The Berg and the Nooitgedagt are clear, the other Swede may be a Berg, or a Kronan or a Jernbolaget or even a Toledo - all excellent.
    The last looks European to me ....
    Excellent find - one of the chisels is worth more than you paid for the lot.
    Five Stars
    SG
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmcgee View Post
    There was the Brown's Tool auction in the US in April ... and yesterday I received a box.
    Good guys - good packaging.
    Inside ...

    (I honestly wasn't thinking of this when I was talking/asking about hammer-setting handsaws recently)
    A foot/spring operated hammer-set ...

    arrive 060513 001.jpg arrive 060513 002.jpg arrive 060513 003.jpg

    Also - among some others - these two CE Atkins #53 saws ... 8pt crosscut and 5-1/2pt ripsaw.
    The floral pattern is embossed, so it is later than the hand chip-carved saws ... maybe 1920/30 ?
    I seem to be 'collecting' a few 'prettier' saws recently ... better watch that lest it become a habit.

    arrive 060513 004.jpg arrive 060513 005.jpg

    arrive 060513 009.jpg arrive 060513 007.jpg

    Cheers,
    Paul
    Lovely saws Paul.
    The Embossed handles are beautiful and the blades in them are superb.
    They really are excellent users aren't they - and yours look to be in wonderful nick.
    Another Five Stars
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmcgee View Post
    There was the Brown's Tool auction in the US in April ... and yesterday I received a box.
    Good guys - good packaging.
    Inside ...

    (I honestly wasn't thinking of this when I was talking/asking about hammer-setting handsaws recently)
    A foot/spring operated hammer-set ...

    arrive 060513 001.jpg arrive 060513 002.jpg arrive 060513 003.jpg

    Also - among some others - these two CE Atkins #53 saws ... 8pt crosscut and 5-1/2pt ripsaw.
    The floral pattern is embossed, so it is later than the hand chip-carved saws ... maybe 1920/30 ?
    I seem to be 'collecting' a few 'prettier' saws recently ... better watch that lest it become a habit.

    arrive 060513 004.jpg arrive 060513 005.jpg

    arrive 060513 009.jpg arrive 060513 007.jpg

    Cheers,
    Paul
    They are beautiful and in wonderful condition. Forgive my ignorance but is the saw tool for setting or straightening? Either way very unusual. Good score.

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    Default Keen eyes as usual Scrib.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum View Post
    OH my dog!
    A Carter C5-1/2 - a very rare beast indeed, and in excellent restorable to working condition. Top find.
    The chisels are all good ones.
    The Berg and the Nooitgedagt are clear, the other Swede may be a Berg, or a Kronan or a Jernbolaget or even a Toledo - all excellent.
    The last looks European to me ....
    Excellent find - one of the chisels is worth more than you paid for the lot.
    Five Stars
    SG
    Well spotted. They are a Berg, a "JNU" (Nooitgedagt?), a Toledo and the last one is a Schlieper made in Germany, seems like good steel though.
    I posted the Carter because I have never seen a C5 1/2 before and like sharing the more unusual stuff. Its on ebay so someone should snap it up and give it a good restore. Same with the chisels.
    That'll fund next Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deesinister View Post
    They are beautiful and in wonderful condition. Forgive my ignorance but is the saw tool for setting or straightening? Either way very unusual. Good score.
    It is for setting the teeth ... but I haven't had any time to study it and try to figure out what type/size of saws we are talking about.

    Generally speaking ... it must be screwed to a table at the edge, with the foot-piece on the floor connected by a wire.
    Pressing down on the foot-piece see-saws the first lever, which is sprung downwards at the back.
    This kicks up the 'hammer' arm (which is pretty side to side sloppy at the moment), limited by the screw/bolt at the back, and it falls down again under gravity.

    The tricky job would be holding your saw "just so" so that one tooth gets struck just right by the 'hammer'.
    I guess if you knew what you were doing it could be 'tonk-tonk-tonk-tonk-tonk-...' all along the saw. (Every second tooth)

    There are machines that set saws - probably by Foley/Belsaw - I imagine they are an automated version of this process.

    It is mentioned here: The Saw Set Collector's Resouce - Hammer Saw Set #2
    leading to ... US Patent: 964,417 - Saw Set

    Cheers,
    Paul

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    Idiot ... just upload it ...
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