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  1. #946
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    Default Tools n books

    Nothing much really picked these up at Oberon heritage Steam fest yesterday

    Saw is missing one or two teeth handle is in good order screws are tight.

    Coping saw is at least sturdy and solid unlike cheap chinese ones.

    The Protractor level is empty and looks like its missing the lock screw.

    The books I am stoked in picking up some of the Model Engineer series were still in plastic wrap, the Tubal Cain Model Steam books and Engineers as well as Paul Haslucks book will all come in very handy.
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  3. #947
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    Default a good haul for oldtool hell... and a request for information

    I picked up a few things at a resale shop.
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    the damage: just over twenty bucks. the plane is a bit late to be very desirable, but I figured the rosewood tote and knob were worth the $12 price tag. the yankee 1530A auto- directional drill for $4 was too nice to pass up. it appears to be in perfect shape. the little prybar will go straight into a grab-and-go toolbox, so even though the price was close to new retail I'm glad to have it. and last but not least, the atkins saw filing multi-tool, which a quick check with the google indicated was complete except for instructions. anybody here have and use one? got maybe a scan of the directions, and/or comments as to the viability of this as a useful device?

  4. #948
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    A #5C undesirable? Never!

    I do want one of those Yankee drills. Why? Because a few years ago I passed on one.

    Anyway, nice haul.
    We don't know how lucky we are......

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanz View Post
    A #5C undesirable? Never!
    I do want one of those Yankee drills. Why? Because a few years ago I passed on one.

    Anyway, nice haul.
    I'm with Seanz. Those Yankee 1530/1530A eggbeaters are lovely little drills. I haven't managed to score a corrigated sole plane yet, but I hope to, one day....

    Cheers, Vann.
    Gatherer of rusty planes tools...
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    I have some of each of corrugated and smooth. personally I prefer smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridger View Post
    I picked up a few things at a resale shop. the damage: just over twenty bucks.
    Yowzer!

    the atkins saw filing multi-tool, ... got maybe a scan of the directions, and/or comments as to the viability of this as a useful device?
    I'd expect your Atkins stuff to fetch at least $50 on ebay ... maybe US ebay ... they are for setting up the large xcut saws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bridger View Post
    I have some of each of corrugated and smooth. personally I prefer smooth.
    Agreed, Bridger. I tried a couple of corrugated soles, way back, & didn't find any advantages. A lick of paraffin wax on the sole does more for slipperiness than any number of grooves, imo. I reckon corrugated soles were another idea that came from the marketing department, rather than the engineering section.

    But perhaps they serve one useful purpose - corrugated soles mostly date from the time before the quality of planes started going downhill rapidly, so at least you know it should be a decent working tool if it has grooves. And if you're into collecting, they're great, 'cos it gives you a whole new set you have to have....

    Cheers,
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    Ray, the Crosland book is out of print.
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    I realised today I'd never been to an antique shop ... that I can remember.
    I went to the HTPAA tool sale over here in 2012? ... met Boringgeoff for the first time ... but no swap meets or car boot sales.
    Just ebay. Must be generational.
    And the sidewalk scrounge, of course.

    But today being a "public holiday" ... for some ... I was done at about lunchtime ... and drove by an ex-scout-hall turned antique shop that I've driven past my whole adult life. Turns out they're not open at 3am.

    Anyhoo, I stopped for a look ... LOTS of stuff in a very plain 80yo building ... but bugger all tools. I found a brace, then the old fella said go have a look in the shed out back. Ooo. A bit better.

    So I came away 90min later, after talking about how Kelmscott was one of the first suburbs established along with Guildford ... and how the Albany Hwy used to run ... and people getting around by horse and cart in the late 40s ... and houses in Wiluna (goldfields) with plastered hessian interior walls and dirt floors but good soil if it rained ... etc

    I was $60 lighter and picked up a few things ...

    Paul

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    I forgot the bit where he mentioned there was a blacksmith in the main street of Gosnells (Albany Hwy).

    We were discussing the scout hall ... 80yrs old ... built by the locals ... and I had noted part of the roof structure.

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    There were two (double) hook and eye arrangements ... holding the walls in I assume.
    I was wondering about them in the back of my mind ... as manufactured items ... and how I hadn't seen an arrangement like that before ... but I hadn't thought of the (apparent) actual situation ... that they were made 'on the spot' or at least locally by blacksmiths.

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    Default Traditional Tools Group (TTG) sale

    Went to the TTG sale a week or so ago. Stayed with a mate in Newcastle ($49 + taxes Jetstar each way ex Melb.) for a few days and got the train back to Normanhurst ($2.50 for all day anywhere on a Sunday) to the "Brickpit". Great venue. Anyway, cruised the tables for a few hours and pick up a bunch of Titans pretty cheap ($170 the lot). Asked my usual questions and as usual got no answers about Titan catalogues etc. Seemed to be a big crowd and a lot of tables although they told me last year was bigger. This is the one and only sale in Sydney now which is puzzling given the nearly six million population and the number of old tools that must be out there. It's certainly a bigger show than the HTPAA sale (I estimate maybe about a third or more extra tables) although the HTPAA have three sales a year compared to Sydney's one. The tool quality seems to be a bit better in the Melbourne sales although I'm only going on what was there on this day having never attended before. There was a few Melbourne dealers there too. I had a chance to run with my new found focus on TITAN'S ONLY and came away with flying colours eventhough I was sorely tested a couple of times to snap up an "off limits" bargain.
    Only new bit of information I gleaned was that Titan produced a named chisel rack with six chisels in it which he had at home. On thinking about it this might have been a point of sale item though. The guy said he would send me a photo.
    Bottom line. Worth the trip. Had fun. Got some chisels and saw another part of the world. Recommend it. They all seemed like nice blokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmcgee View Post
    I forgot the bit where he mentioned there was a blacksmith in the main street of Gosnells (Albany Hwy).

    We were discussing the scout hall ... 80yrs old ... built by the locals ... and I had noted part of the roof structure.

    20140303_124941 (Medium).jpg 20140303_125002 (Medium).jpg

    There were two (double) hook and eye arrangements ... holding the walls in I assume.
    I was wondering about them in the back of my mind ... as manufactured items ... and how I hadn't seen an arrangement like that before ... but I hadn't thought of the (apparent) actual situation ... that they were made 'on the spot' or at least locally by blacksmiths.
    The old scout hall in Kensington, Melbourne had a similar look (IIRC) and it had a sort of barrel-vaulted ceiling too. I thought it was unique. Maybe there was a set of plans for scout halls?
    We don't know how lucky we are......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggie View Post
    Went to the TTG sale a week or so ago. Stayed with a mate in Newcastle ($49 + taxes Jetstar each way ex Melb.) for a few days and got the train back to Normanhurst ($2.50 for all day anywhere on a Sunday) to the "Brickpit". Great venue. Anyway, cruised the tables for a few hours and pick up a bunch of Titans pretty cheap ($170 the lot). Asked my usual questions and as usual got no answers about Titan catalogues etc. Seemed to be a big crowd and a lot of tables although they told me last year was bigger. This is the one and only sale in Sydney now which is puzzling given the nearly six million population and the number of old tools that must be out there. It's certainly a bigger show than the HTPAA sale (I estimate maybe about a third or more extra tables) although the HTPAA have three sales a year compared to Sydney's one. The tool quality seems to be a bit better in the Melbourne sales although I'm only going on what was there on this day having never attended before. There was a few Melbourne dealers there too. I had a chance to run with my new found focus on TITAN'S ONLY and came away with flying colours eventhough I was sorely tested a couple of times to snap up an "off limits" bargain.
    Only new bit of information I gleaned was that Titan produced a named chisel rack with six chisels in it which he had at home. On thinking about it this might have been a point of sale item though. The guy said he would send me a photo.
    Bottom line. Worth the trip. Had fun. Got some chisels and saw another part of the world. Recommend it. They all seemed like nice blokes.
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    Doggie,
    This is a display stand I donated to the HTPAA back in 2006...well before the great Titan price explosion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggie View Post
    Went to the TTG sale a week or so ago... This is the one and only sale in Sydney now which is puzzling given the nearly six million population and the number of old tools that must be out there... Bottom line. Worth the trip. Had fun. Got some chisels and saw another part of the world. Recommend it. They all seemed like nice blokes.
    Well, you can get the thrill again next year - same location, same time, different and exciting tools - and on Sunday 22 February 2015. Now is the time to get the date into your diary and avoid family commitments etc. The Brickpit Sports Stadium is a great facility, however is in great demand, and only available to TTTG for one day a year. Any suggestions for a good reasonably central location... We also hope, with forward planning, there will be no conflicts with other tool related events that weekend.

    Be great if Lightwood could make the Sydney sale, always interesting items in Melbourne. Peter, the Disston printing plate is about the only tool purchase my wife has admired!

    Cheers
    Peter

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    Default Titan "point of sale" stand

    Quote Originally Posted by lightwood View Post
    This is a display stand I donated to the HTPAA back in 2006...well before the great Titan price explosion...

    Peter
    My guess is that the image you put up is what the guy was talking about however I won't know for sure until he forwards the pic. The only other point of sale stand like it that I have seen is pictured below for the ill fated, thus relatively short lived plastic handled chisels (146 and 346). I'm sure there's were heaps of other sales stands, posters etc. but fifty years is a long time for them to melt away. I'll use the pic if that's OK.

    In regards to the "Titan price explosion". Yes it appears that way. But it only seems to apply to what is perceived as rare and varies enormously between sources (from Wantirna to internet via tool sales and antique shops). The $5 to $8 chisels are still out there and if you want to pay more money for them you certainly can. As you might be aware, the really rare items are generally not what most people think they are. The threadbare information on these chisels is the major cause of this and I possit that there are some wise old birds out there, quietly sitting pat and I suspect they would like to keep it this way. They come out of the woodwork like weevils out of a dropped ships biscuit (little burst of past life there!) when the rare stuff turns up and all hell breaks loose in the price department.
    I could be one of them. Err, weevils I mean
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