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    While standing around today on a step stool holding timber bits up, quite boring work.
    It dawned on me (I am a natural blond)
    That maybe the saw is actually incorrect for the frame.
    It's made in England.
    The mitre saw frame is possible from all conclusions a Stanley. US
    The saw plate is just over 500 mm long

    I'm not in my creative zone at present but I'm sure my other Stanley mitre saw plate is at least 600 mm long(I think it's been on a shelf for a while)
    Am I wrong or right or just mis guided lol

    Matt

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    I was researching mitre boxes a while back. The major early players were Millers Falls, Goodell and Stanley. There is plenty of info bout the first 2 makers but no type study of the Stanley's - so there is only old catalogs to go by.
    The are plenty of catalogs on the Blackburn Tools site that were originally hosted by Rose Tools:
    http://www.blackburntools.com/articl...ves/index.html

    In particular there is also a later (c1958) Stanley Catalog with some of the 4 digit mitre boxes here:
    http://www.blackburntools.com/articl...1958-no-34.pdf

    Based on the research I picked up an early Goodell mitre box. This model decades later formed basis of the Millers Falls "All Steel" models which eventually had identical features to the Langdon Acme models but constructed of steel rather than cast iron. Not as popular - but better if dropped.

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    Being a man of my word
    Or something like that
    As promised the wing ding thingy

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    Matt

    Thanks for posting pix of that stop device, which I have not seen or heard of before.

    They really didn't want the saw to come out of it's slot did they? Does the bolt screw into the other side of the stop or does it bear on the saw back?

    I also wonder if it was an after market device or if it indeed came with the mitre box. I couldn't see any makers marks in the casting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Matt

    Thanks for posting pix of that stop device, which I have not seen or heard of before.

    They really didn't want the saw to come out of it's slot did they? Does the bolt screw into the other side of the stop or does it bear on the saw back?

    I also wonder if it was an after market device or if it indeed came with the mitre box. I couldn't see any makers marks in the casting.

    Regards
    Paul
    Hi Paul ,
    The bolt screw ,does bare on the plate .
    But the plate has a small hole I would roughly say 2mm maybe 2.5mm diameter.

    But, the bolt ,won't pass through the hole .


    The saw plate is as I thought a lot longer then the other one ,this one ,is about 600 mm long .
    And again ,ugly handle

    Cheers Matt

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    Hi Matt,

    That device is a Trip Clamp. See Part Number 142 on Page 34 of this Catalog.
    http://www.blackburntools.com/articl...1914-no-34.pdf
    You will see a picture of it in use on Page 32 clamped on the saw back just in front of the handle.
    The Stanley mitre boxes would lock the saw at the top of the guides so that you could position the wood to be cut without having to hold the saw up. The Trip Clamp would then trigger the release of the saw from the top when you pushed the saw forward.
    More details in this Stanley doc here:
    http://tooltrip.com/tooltrip9/stanle...ox/mboxman.pdf

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    Successful garage sale hunting ...

    (I'd like to see the hand-coloured version of this!)

    Carpenters.jpg

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    Paul

    There's a phenomenal array of tools there. At least two mitre saws complete with mitre boxes, chisels, planes and so many hand saws!

    But the pic was taken in an era where the photography process was really protracted and humans of the time were unable to hold a smile for the required twenty minutes. Consequently they look more sad than they really were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    ... the pic was taken in an era where the photography process was really protracted and humans of the time were unable to hold a smile for the required twenty minutes. Consequently they look more sad than they really were.....
    Maybe they aren't too damn pleased about life, Paul! Judging by the tool assortment, they are into the heavy-framing building style. Can't have been a barrel of laughs hefting great baulks of semi-green Oak about, & chopping mortises that a couple of ordinary table legs would fit through, to say nothing of lifting the completed frames into position.....

    Cheers,
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    There were a few drill presses too to help cut the mortises.
    I am learning, slowley.

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    Default Those Beautiful Tools.

    Hi All,
    Couldn't see any Draw Knives, Brace & Bits, but did like those Slicks on the bottom right.
    A couple of collectors I know wood like to have them.
    A Coloured version wood be nice to look at occasionally, blown up a bit as well.
    Regards,
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    I did try blowing the picture up but the definition was poor and it quickly became blurred.

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    Is it just me or does that mitre saw.
    In the pic look like it has an extremely long saw in it.
    I'm guessing over a metre ??

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    According to the Distonian Institute, Disston made mitre saws up to 32".
    I guess if it was any longer it would have become a metre saw!

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    [QUOTE=hiroller;
    I guess if it was any longer it would have become a metre saw![/QUOTE]



    Regards
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