Thread: Moulding planes and their use?

Here is a link I found on how to make them http://villagecarpenter.blogspot.com.au/2010/06/making-moulding-planes.html check out the video of it in use no one can tell it's slower compared to a router by the time you find the bit install it set it up get you ear protection and glasses your already finished and starting another. No dust, no noise, no neighbour complaints and plenty of excercise which means no gym fees.

Originally Posted by section1

Here is a link I found on how to make them http://villagecarpenter.blogspot.com.au/2010/06/making-moulding-planes.html check out the video of it in use no one can tell it's slower compared to a router by the time you find the bit install it set it up get you ear protection and glasses your already finished and starting another. No dust, no noise, no neighbour complaints and plenty of excercise which means no gym fees.

You forgot to mention time spent in the emergency room

I do most of my work at night when my kids are asleep.

Dangerous as it may be if one excercises caution it can be safe obviously a better alternative is making the switch but unfortunately due to high demand and mass production one turns to machinery which has led to what we are faced with today. Unemployment, lack of human skill, professional craftsmen now turned hobbyist I could go on but I won't. We are completely off the topiic here, I'm not going into battle with the machinists each to their own whatever rocks their boat is fine by me. I like what I do it works for me.

The Village Carpenter: Making Moulding Planes

Originally Posted by pmcgee

The Village Carpenter: Making Moulding Planes

Great link, thanks

These are Vietnamese style. Easy to make and they work well for a basic sort of profile. The round is Brushbox, the hollow is Blackbean and the scraper is Euro Beech.
The scraper is the only one I use these days. I made it when I started using Solomon Blackwood for Double Bass fingerboards, a very cranky timber indeed.
A DB fingerboard needs a planed in relief the thickness of each string, 500mm from the nut. This is a compound form ( different radius at the nut and the dusty end ) and to keep it interesting the high point is on the 3rd string. I haven't found a way to machine this yet but I'm working on it.

I should clarify two things,

Working Solomon Blackwood will not leave that black goop on the sole of your plane. It will do just the opposite, polish and wear out. That goop is from the fb of an entry level DB that had so much relief it was unplayable.

My description of the fingerboard shape is what a luthier does with an existing fb or a commerical pre-shaped blank. The machine probably won't exist in my lifetime.

Thanks for the kind comments about my last post on this subject guys , I posted it then took off an hour later for a break to visit family, out of range from my computer / on line addiction.

Section 1 ,
When I made the moulding plane I mentioned in your other thread, I got the shape on to the sole using a scratch stock , it was a fairly complex shape and by keeping my Beech blank a few inches longer than needed I got a clean section that was the right length, scratch stocks tend to leave a mould a bit rough at the start and finish. these rough ends were cut off.
I also made a float for the job and made the blade from scratch . the float was from a file and would have been two hours work.

I have seen Poplar years back, and from what I remember I did not think it was as hard as Beech ,I could be wrong of course. but without researching I would think harder than Pine and softer than Beech. The harder the better though I would think.
Ive always thought Aussie Blackwood would be nice because I see it around being chopped up for fire wood sometimes ,If you could get it as short logs it could be split into sections and dried with the best grain direction. It looks good too . I have couple of user made Blackwood bench planes , not to heavy and they seem to wear well, not sure if it wears as well as Beech though.

Another thing that could be done is the Boxwood boxing that used to be installed as wear strips in the old ones where the Quirks were sometimes, could be easily put in with a groove and a strip of brass. Easy because the groove can be cut on a table saw and the brass sheet on the band saw , by hand ?

Are you thinking of buying or making some floats ?

Rob

Yes I will buy some from LN I bought that DVD I mentioned in my earlier posts it's a good 3 hr and very informative. I was thinking if it would be possible to convert my filister ( small plow plane) to behave just like a 45 would. I'm not sure if the blade would fit but I will look into it. If not I will make an attempt on one but after watching that video he shows a list of more tools I have to buy in order to make them, these are the guys from arkinsaw and due to their massive back order and old age they have stopped taking orders.

Poplar is technically a hardwood it's readily available from Masters but it's not cheap, in the US it is but not here, it is harder than pine but not as hard as other hardwoods, I do like working with poplar it's tool firendly easy to plane and chisel and looks quite nice. It's a popular wood in the US schools I just wish it was a little more cheaper than it is.

I was going to use a router to get the shapes I commonly use and then start coming up with my own designs, at the moment I'm experimenting with my plow plane and bench planes to get an ogee moulding. It's slowly coming together but aint easy. I know many people would wondder why go through all this when you have a router but that would be too easy.

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It seems he only ships to US, I emailed him anyway

You can set up a 'mailbox' with a freight forwarder. I use 'shipito.com' - which I read about on the forums here - and it's been very good (I'm sure there are others). It isn't the simplest process to navigate, but it has been good for me. They provide a US mailing address and you can accumulate packages there and have then all sent out to OZ in one go.

You can have up to a 36"x17"x17" box sent! ... (it's good for handsaws )

Cheers,
Paul

I'm lookinginto now thanks for that

As for making them ... grain direction discussed here and here:

wooden plane grain orientation? Stock size?

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