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  1. #1
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    Default Mouth adjustment -- Record 077A Bullnose Rabbet Plane -- what does it accomplish?

    Dear brains-trust,

    I inherited a Record No. 077A Bull-Nose Plane (as illustrated in Record Catalogue No. 15, February 1938) over 20 years ago, and have only just now begun cleaning, sharpening and setting it up.
    The description includes the statement that ; "......An improved adjustable mouth has been embodied in this plane by fitting two steel distance pieces in between the detachable nose and the plane body, which gives four varying openings for fine or coarse work....."

    I am hoping someone can explain to me how and why varying the mouth opening changes the operation of the plane?

    I have never used one, and am wondering what "fine or coarse work" implies.

    Cheers, Mike

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    On any plane an adjustable mouth allows for taking thinner or thicker shavings. Wider the mouth, thicker the shaving.

    Wider = coarser; narrower = finer. By just a fraction, of course.

    A bullnose plane like the Record 077A comes with shims which can used to widen the mouth. Or it can be used without a nose at all and used as a chisel plane.

    Bullnose planes are typically quite close mouthed by design.

    V

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrosa22 View Post
    On any plane an adjustable mouth allows for taking thinner or thicker shavings. Wider the mouth, thicker the shaving.

    Wider = coarser; narrower = finer. By just a fraction, of course.

    A bullnose plane like the Record 077A comes with shims which can used to widen the mouth. Or it can be used without a nose at all and used as a chisel plane.

    Bullnose planes are typically quite close mouthed by design.

    V
    Thank You. One of the two shims is missing, but otherwise the plane is in good working order. Cheers, Mike

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    Aluminum drink cans are a good source of shim material for all sorts of things if you ever feel the need. Just cut it out with scissors.
    Regards
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by orraloon View Post
    Aluminum drink cans are a good source of shim material for all sorts of things if you ever feel the need. Just cut it out with scissors.
    Regards
    John
    Good advice, thanks. Me too, I need to make shims for my Record 077A
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    Giuliano

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    For a bullnose plane, it may not be all that important. I have a Stanley No. 90J bullnose plane with a fixed mouth, like this one but not as pretty:
    Stanley 90J plane.jpg
    I use it more often than I do the Record because it's more comfortable, and I don't have trouble with tearout. In my experience, sharp edges make more difference than mouth opening for most woods. Someday, I'll get around to filing the sharp edges off the Record where my fingers fall in holding it, and then maybe I'll start using it more.

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