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    Default No8. Stanley. Advice needed...

    I puchased a Lie-Nielsen replacement blade and cap iron to suit the No.8 plane which arrived today.

    Any ideas about locating the "Y" lever into the chip breaker. Mine is too short by a few mm. Do you know if longer versions of these are available as an after market item from anywhere or do I build up the length with weld (bronze) or some other previous proven method. I have yet to remove the "Y" adjuster from the plane and measure the length to the end from the hole. It may have been filed shorter by a previous owner to help adjustments as it looks to have been tampered with. Any Stanley Gurus out there that can give me some measurements to go by or advice would be appreciated.

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    We encountered the same problem with the Stanley Batch Order.

    The solutions that people came up with are:

    • Weld on some mild steel to the front.
    • Widen the slot at the back in the cap iron, then fill the front of the slot with solder/weld.
    • Replace the yoke "the Y thing"
    • Add a few drops of weld/epoxy on top of the yoke to make it longer


    All the above will solve the problem but it, will depend on the tools you have at hand which one you select.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    We encountered the same problem with the Stanley Batch Order.

    The solutions that people came up with are:

    • Weld on some mild steel to the front.
    • Widen the slot at the back in the cap iron, then fill the front of the slot with solder/weld.
    • Replace the yoke "the Y thing"
    • Add a few drops of weld/epoxy on top of the yoke to make it longer
    All the above will solve the problem but it, will depend on the tools you have at hand which one you select.
    Thanks for the reply.

    I have just been out in the shed all afternoon fiddling with the no.8. I found a longer "Y" lever and put that in. It now engages into the cap iron ok. I had to file 3mm out of the plane mouth as there wasn't enough movement in the frog to allow the blade to protrude. I am going to have to grind 5mm off the blade as there isn't enough up and down movement in the blade or as suggested above, I will weld up the hole in the cap iron and file out a new hole higher up. The latter is the easier option. The plane works ok now as is but I will fiddle more until all is good as at present I run out of thread adjusting the blade. The new blade and cap is certainly a solid lump of metal compared to the original items. $70.00 US for the lot was agood price too from the Festool Classifieds.

    Oh well, back to have a bit more play before tea.

    Col
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col View Post
    I am going to have to grind 5mm off the blade as there isn't enough up and down movement
    There is a mathematical reason why that is not a good idea the logic escapes me, but it was covered in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col View Post
    I am going to have to grind 5mm off the blade as there isn't enough up and down movement in the blade...
    Err, no! The blade can be moved up and down as required. Grind 5mm off the cap iron...

    I guess it's too late now, but the Lie-Nielsen website asks you to specify the distance from the leading edge of the cap-iron to the yoke hole. They then custom make the cap-iron to suit your plane (at no extra cost?).

    Cheers, Vann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    Err, no! The blade can be moved up and down as required. Grind 5mm off the cap iron...

    I guess it's too late now, but the Lie-Nielsen website asks you to specify the distance from the leading edge of the cap-iron to the yoke hole. They then custom make the cap-iron to suit your plane (at no extra cost?).

    Cheers, Vann.
    I worked out that it was the cap iron when I held the new and the old together and have marked it ready to drill and file. I never bought it direct from Lie-Nielsen so I couldn't get a custom fit. The previous owner had not used it when I got it and the price was good so a few hours of buggerising around with it wont hurt. I wouldn't want to pay original Lie-Nielsen prices for the blade and cap iron or anything else from them direct for that matter. I love the tools but hate the prices so I have managed so far to get four unused and one gently used Lie-Nielsens from various USA locations at huge savings over new. I think many people buy them and stick them on a shelf and they never get used for what they are intended for. I must admit that I was very sceptical of the Lie-Nielsens and had always thought that they could not do much more than the Stanleys and Records I had. Was I wrong. Yes sireee Bob. Chalk and cheese. Even the Bedrock I had was ordinary compared to the LNs. I'm now a Born Again Planer...

    It's bloody Groggys fault too...

    Col.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col View Post
    It's bloody Groggys fault too...
    Bwahahaha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy View Post
    Bwahahaha...
    I'll give you Bwahahaha you old bugger. Out with the old in with the new.

    Planes that is....

    By the way. I've fixed up those two tenon saws. Came up ok too me thinks.....Thanks for giving me the saw (not sore) nuts.

    Col
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