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    Default Putting an old fillister plane to work.

    Picked up an old fillister resently ( thought it was plough at first)...

    Learning how to use it. Put it to work this morning. Took some photos of some thoughts I had on it.

    Lovely old planes. Found mine cut rebates off a thin edge better than the regular stanley 78 type rebate planes. Which I thought was interesting. I attribute that to the position of the depth stop in the fillister....

    Sits right between the hands, unlike with the 78, where its on the side.

    Don't have that problem that occurs with 78's as much, where just as the depth stop rubs the plane is held up by the depth stop on the right side causing the left side to roll over,,,,which is encouraged by both your hands.

    Here's 8 photos. I realise now that some of its a little silly to mention....anyway . whatever.

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    Very interesting stuff, Jake (as always ).

    Cheers

    Paul

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    Wot Paul said. Good points there, well made; 'specially about the location of the depth stop. Not given that any thought before and now I'm going "d'oh". Thinking aloud, that might give something like a 050/45 the edge over the 78, mightn't it? Using the nearside depth stop position? Mind you thinking aloud without a) checking first, and b) after a cider is usually a bad idea...

    Cheers, Alf

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    Thanks Paul and Alf.....

    Makes sense Alf......you mean the depth stop on the left in the 50/45? I didn't think of that. Must try that one day.

    I have got an idea for you guys though, that I think you'd like ......for plough cuts though using the 50 or 45.....to stop that depth stop roll problem which will happen here as well.... pinch a depth stop from another combination plane (a lot of them seem interchangable)..... and lock it in that left depth stop you mentioned and use it with TWO depth stops....use calipers to ensure the left and right depth stops are the same height off the skates as one another and you'll get perfectly square bottoms on your plough cuts Evvvvvvvery time ....

    Been doing that for a while....works well..... I'll try and get a picture of it soon if interested......means if your planing a little off vertical ( realistically I think we always are a little ) the depth stop that hits first, kicks the plane vertical, and is kept vertical by the other........have to close your eyes and visualise I think

    In anycase, in my opinion, off a thin edge the 50 will be easier to control than the 45. Not so high off the deck....uno.

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    This is good stuff, Jake. How about a couple of pics of a 50 with 2 depth stops on board to show us how it all works?

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    I'm going to toss in a curly one here, maybe I shouldn't on a Friday night, Farmers Arms and all, but what Apricotripper bless his heart is doing is re-inventing, with no doubt pleasure, but he's had to relearn what was once trade knowledge, passed down for how many generations? And there's been a break in transmission, so no one around to teach him the tricks, and due to ....electric routers and such. When were they introduced (should look it up...late 1930)?? So all we're left with are tools but not the teachers and few instructions, but thanks to Jake he's keeping it alive!
    So thanks Jake, keep pottering in your shed and sending out messages!

    Cheers,
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    Onya Jake


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    Quote Originally Posted by apricotripper View Post
    I have got an idea for you guys though, that I think you'd like ......for plough cuts though using the 50 or 45.....to stop that depth stop roll problem which will happen here as well.... pinch a depth stop from another combination plane (a lot of them seem interchangable)..... and lock it in that left depth stop you mentioned and use it with TWO depth stops....use calipers to ensure the left and right depth stops are the same height off the skates as one another and you'll get perfectly square bottoms on your plough cuts Evvvvvvvery time ....

    Been doing that for a while....works well..... I'll try and get a picture of it soon if interested......means if your planing a little off vertical ( realistically I think we always are a little ) the depth stop that hits first, kicks the plane vertical, and is kept vertical by the other........have to close your eyes and visualise I think
    Yes, good idea Jake. Never thought of that - but really obvious now that you've mentioned it

    Cheers

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    Ta.

    I'll try and get those pictures going some time soon. I'd totally forgotten about that double depth stop idea.......think now it would have been a better way to do those glazing bars....

    I'll show you what I mean latter.

    Have a good weekend.

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