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1st February 2019, 06:01 PM #1
Good Quality Spokeshaves for a Woodworking Classroom
I recently got tasked with setting up the Woodworking classroom. We have funding for tools and machines. I am looking at spokeshaves. Can anyone recommend a source of 20 spokesshaves that are well made have good steel will not need days of fettling and is moderate in pricing.
Lie-Nielsen and Veritas are out. The Chinese clones of those are also out of range. What options do I have.
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1st February 2019, 07:03 PM #2
Not much option I can think of, other than to go ferreting out old Stanley 150s & their Record clones, TS. They can be had for very reasonable prices at flea-markets, and usually only need a decent grind & sharpen to get them shaving moderately well. I put a thicker blade (from LV) in the old Stanley I inherited from my father & it performs much better than it did with the original blade.
Finding 20 oldies before term starts will be a bit of a stretch! However, even dealers seem to sell for tolerable prices, so one way or another you might acquire the requisite number in time....
Cheers,IW
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1st February 2019, 07:49 PM #3
Those prices are $45 to $75 almost the same price as what some shave cost at lee valley at
Cast Round Spokeshave - Lee Valley Tools
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1st February 2019, 08:39 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Today's students are tomorrow's customers. With that in mind, I'd be hitting up Timbecon and Carbatec for their best prices while offering up a bit of trade by being willing to put up signage "proudly supported by Timbecon" etc etc. FWIW I have a Luban flat spookshave, it's good, it works.
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1st February 2019, 09:12 PM #5
Ther are Clifton spoke shaves about not too sure of the pricing though,they are all metal!
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1st February 2019, 09:18 PM #6
Last edited by clear out; 1st February 2019 at 09:21 PM. Reason: Double posting
Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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1st February 2019, 09:20 PM #7
Old Stanley’s etc are the way to go.
Rather than an expensive thick blade pack the original with a piece of credit card to make the mouth smaller.
Ive sourced over 20 for Richard Vs trips to that island off Manus where he’s teaching the locals furniture making.
The TTTG Sale is the spot in Sydney February and the HTPAA March sale there in Melbourne is where to buy them.
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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2nd February 2019, 09:59 AM #8
Given your constraints
20 spokeshaves
well made
good steel
will not need days of fettling
Chinese clones of Lie Nielsen and Veritas are out of range
Realistically, I don't think you have any options.
Flea market Stanleys and Records might meet our price criteria, but would almost certainly require days of fettling -- which for a teacher will be days of work for no income.
Without being silly, you are spending other people's money -- you don't have to buy the best, but what you do buy should work almost out of the box. Otherwise it's your responsibility to get the 20 tools to work by the first day the kids need to use them -- that is unless the curriculum includes teaching the kids how to get an old poorly maintained tool to work. Which I think would be unlikely.
are you crazy or ...
unless you want to cause nothing but frustration never give a beginner a round bottom shave.
While I believe that Clearout is spot on for one or two shaves for personal use, in a class of (I don't really even want to be here) school kids that sort of "fix" will disappear before you can blink.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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2nd February 2019, 11:33 AM #9
I think that it’s not possible to meet my criteria I think that approaching Timbecon https://www.timbecon.com.au/planing/...es/spokeshaves and making a deal with them maybe the best way forward.
We needs lots of other tools purchased and a deal is possible.
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2nd February 2019, 12:33 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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I needed a spoke shave. . . . to make spoon handles just as fast as I could go.
Decided on the threaded nut depth setting design, not the ones set with a hammer.
Bought a Samona (South Korea) that needed the sole cleaned up. Easy.
The blade cut so very well that in less than a week, I ordered a second one.
Same thing. I have one set thick and the other set thin to kiss off the ridges.
To round a square blank, I have to count strokes.
A rough calculation showed that I pulled those spokeshaves more than a mile, nearly 2km.
A few years back, mind you, but I paid $16.00 for each of them. I'd do it again in a minute.
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2nd February 2019, 05:54 PM #11
is your new school funded by the Vic State government or is it priovate?
If the former, you usually can't just go out and buy stuff, you need to ask for quotes -- if a private or catholic school, there will be a purchasing process you need to adhere to. I suggest you find out what that process is and follow it.
Earlier you said that you were tasked with setting up the "woodworking classroom".
How many kids will be in the room working on projects at any one time? I suggest that every kid plus the teacher will need a basic and standardised set of tools.
Have you worked out what that set should contain? Then normally, you would call quotes for complete kits, or at least the components of the kits.
Be aware that your school may have a policy of purchasing locally whenever possible.
I will suggest that it would be advisable to include your local Mitre10, ThriftyLink, Home Hardware, Bunnings, independent hardware store, in the quoting process BEFORE you start approaching the likes of Timbercom or Carbatec, and you might also want to include Jim Davey -- who occasionally posts on here.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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2nd February 2019, 09:17 PM #12
At this point I am just putting out feelers. Not committing to anything just yet. I just need to make recommendations then the school will do the purchasing.
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3rd February 2019, 12:37 AM #13Member
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i've got one of thes. Works ok after honing blade.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plan...AbTest=ae803_4
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3rd February 2019, 06:45 AM #14
good luck !!
and I mean it -- to the uninitiated there is no difference between a plane from Bunnings in heat sealed plastic and a Lie Nielsen.
And you try telling the purchasing person that the 20 planes they just signed for are utter crap.
And buying through eBay or AliExpress is probably verbotten.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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3rd February 2019, 09:32 AM #15
The school has had a workshop that was never fully equipped. The Woodworking teachers where CRT or transitory and did not care about the curriculum, the kids or the classroom.
I was brought aboard to reinvigorate the subject by introducing projects beyond the butt jointed boxes.
For the year 7’s we are doing spoon carving (we only have them for 10 lessons) in year 8’s we will be doing a desk lamp, and in year 9’s it will be a post & rung chair. I am at the junior campus. However each one will be taught in accordance with the state curriculum with a problem to address, a design brief, constraints and considerations and prototyping and ideation making 50% of the class work.
I have a good relationships with the principal she and her staff are supportive of my ideas and methods.
I am being very careful with my purchase list nothing is being asked for unless we will absolutely need it.
The school is in a small country town there is no way we can purchase even a 1/16th of the stuff we need locally. We will have to buy from Melbourne.
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