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  1. #1
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    Default Question about cutting small, thin strips by hand

    G'day had a question.

    A little project I am trying to make is a box to hold neck ties (rolled up). I would like to use thin strips of something fairly rigid to make the internal "fences" (perhaps 2mm or so thick), but wondering if I could do it by hand.

    I don't have a table saw or band saw and even if I did would be concerned that the kerf on a table saw would take out proportionally a lot of materially, and then I'd have to smooth out the saw marks with a hand plane which would be very fiddly. There could be a thinner blade with a bandsaw but the edges would be rough. Either way I really prefer hand tools to avoid the dust and noise.

    So my question is, to get uniform thin strips (like veneer strips), as neatly as possible and with minimum wastage, what would be the best way way to do this with hand tools (assuming there is a way).

    I recall reading an article about the Stanley No 45 being able to be set up to take neat slits of material (but without explaining how), that I assume just involved getting the narrowest slitting/grooving blade you could find, and keeping on going down to the full height of the board (perhaps putting a sacrificial piece underneath, or flipping the board over to come in from the other side (which would only work if the boards are very, very true). Might need to re-hone the blade on each pass given the amount of material going on a small section of blade - but for gentle work done peacefully that seems fine.

    I have noticed Veritas do a 1/6" inch blade for a router plane or their hinge mortise plane. If you had a 2mm veneer slit, a wastage of 1/16" inch (1.6mm) on a smooth cut seems about as good as you could get.

    But does anyone have any other ways, or thoughts on this type of method?

    (This may or may not all be a naked setup to justify myself buying another Veritas plane...)

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    I've done this using nokogiri with minimal waste. I prefer a kataba (single-edged saw) but a ryoba (double-edged) will do the job. Just so long as it's not a dozuki, which has a spine.

    I make a jig, which is basically just a recess of whatever mm depth I want (ie. 3mm or whatever the strips width is), for the blank to snugly sit in tot use as a saw guide, cutting horizontally. Bit like a cheese cutter, really. Unlike a western saw this is easily done without the teeth 'chewing' into the jig as well.

    With practice, the pieces can be cleaned up - if necessary - with just a card scraper in the same jig.

    Mind you, buying another plane can be much less frustrating than learning a new sawying technique...
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    You could do it with a 1/16” router blade... but it would take rather a long time. The slitter on a Stanley 45 or Record 405 is primarily designed for cutting off mouldings such as astragals or sash bars; not really thin strips. You just score the timber deeply on both sides and snap off the moulding by hand.

    How about a simple rip saw fitted with a fence to make a jury-rigged kerfing saw? You’ll need a strip of timber 2mm thick plus half the amount of set on the saw teeth; and a thin plank to use as the fence. This plank must be wide enough to cover the width of the strip and about 3-4 times the thickness of the material you’re sawing. Glue the thin strip to one edge of the plank fence, then clamp that to the saw blade using the smallest G-cramps you have available. If you Google “kerfing saw” you’ll pick up plenty of pictures along with the odd video of the proper tool so you should be able to figure out how this idea will follow the basic design.
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    Sawing them off would be my approach. I'm assuming you'll need the pieces to be about 50mm deep and around 3mm or a bit less in thickness? Whatever saw you use, circular, band or hand, you are going to lose some wood each time, cleaning up saw marks. No saw will give you a perfect surface, even the best will require sanding, at least. The finer the teeth, the better the surface should be, but the slower they'll cut.

    To do the job entirely with hand tools, I'd square up my block, then use a marking gauge to mark off the required 'board' all around the block. Unlike normal setting out, I'd put the mark where I'm going to saw, and score it deeply. This will help keep the saw aligned while you run a kerf about 8-10mm deep all around the line. Once you have this kerf to guide the saw you can saw straight across the block & he saw should follow the kerf without wander. Clean up the block & repeat as required.

    To plane the sawn surface of each strip, I would make up something like a 'sticking' jig (used for sticking the moulding profiles on glazing bars, etc.). You'll need a flat board that you can clamp in a vise or on your bench-top, with shallow cleats that contain the thin board snugly at each end, or better, all round. The cleats will also act as a reference to get the thicknesses consistent (make sure you punch the heads well below the surface if you attach the cleats with tacks!). I assume you are going to need to have each board pretty even to make the numerous halving joints to form the 'divisions.

    Choose a wood that is evenly 'dry', but be prepared for such thin boards to cup & twist & bow a bit. Softer woods like Paulonia or Cedar or Hoop would be a good choice, imo...

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    Like the others say, saw then plane. As planeing thin strips is difficult then a thickness jig is what you need.
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    You could use a mitre box or make one if the dimensions are too small Haron 300 x 100mm Wooden Mitre Box | Bunnings Warehouse

    The approach I would take is plane the face in a shooting board and then use the mitre box or similar to cut to a scribed line allowing some extra thickness for finishing to the cut line. If you had a suitable plane it could be secured upside down and the unfinished side run over the blade which means making a small jig to hold the thin strip. If needed the strips could be made longer to fix them into a jig then cut to finished size.
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