Thread: Rare Stanley #441

I received the following reply from the Buyer:

"Hi i know it is a fake i just like things a bit different. I you want to get rid of it tell me a price and i will pay you for it
regards steve "

THAT is opening the door!

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by derekcohen

I received the following reply from the Buyer:

"Hi i know it is a fake i just like things a bit different. I you want to get rid of it tell me a price and i will pay you for it
regards steve "

THAT is opening the door!

Regards from Perth

Derek

Yes, to quite a few possibilities.

Sounds like a bit of skulduggery caught out - perhaps a more truthful reply would have been "..I know it is a fake but I like ripping gullible people off..."

Pretty cavalier attitude, at any rate, & surely not one Ebay encourages??

Cheers

IanW - Note the reply came from the BUYER not seller.

Originally Posted by derekcohen

I received the following reply from the Buyer:

The buyer likes to be ripped off??????

Hi David - that's the 2nd time today I didn't read a post properly. Too much gardening & not enough shed time over Easter!

Anyway - yeah, but I suppose there are just people who like to collect curious things - watch a few episodes of "The Collectors" on Friday evening ABC.

But I'm still waiting for Derek to chop the nose off a plane & tell us how it works....

Cheers,

But I'm still waiting for Derek to chop the nose off a plane & tell us how it works....

I think it would dig in unless you kept a lot of weight on the back end.

Originally Posted by DavidG

I think it would dig in unless you kept a lot of weight on the back end.

David - I'm being utterly facetious.
The chances of Derek hacking one of his precious collection to bits is even more remote than the liklihood of a big win in Lotto.

Actually, a chisel plane doesn't dig in so much, if it's set for a fine cut, but it can't control its cut very well without a sole pressing down on the wood in front of the blade, so you get a pretty rough finish if you have to run against the grain (at least that's my experience with my home-made job edit: which also has a full-width blade like a rebate plane so you can get right into a corner). However, they are useful when cleaning-up large flat-bottomed recesses that butt up to a shoulder. But whenever I've needed to do that, the space available was not great, & something as cumbersome as the butchered #4 we are talking about would not be very practical under those circumstances, and it doesnt have a full-width blade - perhaps an old #10 blade could be used instead of its original?

Still, that plane may have been concocted for a specific job, and for all we know it may have done it well (whatever it was!). I do admit to a tinge of curiosity about whether it could be controlled or not.

C'mon Derek - get out the hacksaw.....

Cheers,
(with a half a tongue in cheek)

Originally Posted by Burnsy

Where do you reckon he pulled that number from (441) people are bidding on it

At a guess, I'd say it's on the back of the blade.
Some Stanley blades are stamped with their month and year of manufacture. 441 would be the fourth month of 1941 or April 1941.
I have a couple like this - blades that is - not the plane.
I think I may have an extremely rare Stanley 935 somewhere in the shed - I'll have to check.
This whole episode is just so sad.
Regards
from Tele Point
SG

The thing that annoys me about this is the community of eBay users are shouting "fraud" "fraud" but there is nothing you can do unless you buy it. The seller can do it again next time

As for the errors Derek, in my OP I identified three different time periods with the frog a possible fourth, so it is a real bitsa. Also there is a chip out of the mouth, probably from the original break, and I suspect cleverly photographed so he can say it was in plain sight (if you squint hard enough). Don't think I'll ever be buying from this character.

I just looked at the price it went for $103.50
I don't believe it (thud)

I'm not sure if any of you saw the 101 on epay a few weeks ago with its front hacked off so it 'may or may not be a 101 1/2 , you decide' , no photo's of the front and one description describing it as 3 1/2 inches long and another 2 1/2 inches long. Damn thing sold for over $150.
I usually see 101's at the markets for $5-$10 so thats $140 profit less the cost of a hacksaw blade an a bit of wet and dry.
I think we need a rogue plane gallery.

Ian

I would have expected it at half price.

Originally Posted by Ian Wells

I'm not sure if any of you saw the 101 on epay a few weeks ago with its front hacked off so it 'may or may not be a 101 1/2 , you decide' , no photo's of the front and one description describing it as 3 1/2 inches long and another 2 1/2 inches long. Damn thing sold for over $150.
I usually see 101's at the markets for $5-$10 so thats $140 profit less the cost of a hacksaw blade an a bit of wet and dry.
I think we need a rogue plane gallery.

Ian

is this the one?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....:X:RTQ:AU:1123

I asked that seller for a front on shot on the first day of the auction.. was promised one that never came.

looked mighty suspect to me

I have an old Rapier 130 that the front has been broken off of. Maybe I might grind some more off it and put it on with some strange speil.

We could have a competition to see who can sell the dodgiest home modified plane for the most, might be fun

> and put it on with some strange speil.

G'day Burnsy,

It might be better if you were to put a Spell on it.
or even a Curse on it, eh?