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    Default How to read imperial scale vernier caliper?

    Hello all machinists, turners and woodies, I have set the Moore & Wright vernier calipers set to 39.7mm as shown in the attached pic. It is correct, but the parallax error of the camera lens does not show it. Take my word for it please.

    Now to read the metric scale, I just read the fixed metric scale at 39mm, then go to the point where any sliding scale mark aligns with a mark on the fixed scale, and read the corresponding number on the sliding scale (7) to give the reading to 39.7mm

    My problem is reading this in inches on the top sliding scale in the pic. Can anyone please point me in the right direction on how to read this scale up to 1.0 thou inch? The correct answer is 1.563".
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    Default Got it !!

    Each of the tiny graduation marks on the upper fixed imperial scale is 0.25". Therefore the point of the zero on the sliding scale reads 1.55"
    Moving on to the sliding scale, each graduation is 0.001"
    For this reading, the sliding imperial scale and the fixed imperial scale align when the upper reading is 13 i.e., 0.013"

    Final reading = 1.55" + 0.013" =1.563"

    Another reason why metric is so much easier than imperial
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    Both are pretty easy once you've done it long enough but I do prefer metric for any measuring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dengue View Post
    Each of the tiny graduation marks on the upper fixed imperial scale is 0.25". Therefore the point of the zero on the sliding scale reads 1.55"
    Moving on to the sliding scale, each graduation is 0.001"
    For this reading, the sliding imperial scale and the fixed imperial scale align when the upper reading is 13 i.e., 0.013"

    Final reading = 1.55" + 0.013" =1.563"
    You're close. The Imperial scale is divided into 0.100" and then further divided into 0.025" subdivisions. You can't measure 1.55" on the main scale, but I assume you're just using that number as an example.

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    Thanks raffo, but I got the 1.55” reading off the imperial fixed scale. It was not a made up number.
    I read 1” + .5” + 2x.025” =1.55”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dengue View Post
    Thanks raffo, but I got the 1.55” reading off the imperial fixed scale. It was not a made up number.
    I read 1” + .5” + 2x.025” =1.55”.
    Duh, you are right, I was off by 10!

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    Default What's the purpose of this vernier?

    On the topic of verniers, I got this little vernier from a machinist. I use it as a small square when doing dovetails, but I'm intrigued about it's actual purpose. As you can see it has an accuracy to 0.001".

    What confuses me is what can one measure with it. The main scale starts about 1/4" from the end of the bar. Does that mean that this is not used as a depth gauge? How can one measure something with it if one can only reference against one side only?

    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raffo View Post
    Duh, you are right, I was off by 10!

    What's a factor of 10 amongst friends !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raffo View Post
    On the topic of verniers, I got this little vernier from a machinist. I use it as a small square when doing dovetails, but I'm intrigued about it's actual purpose. The main scale starts about 1/4" from the end of the bar. Does that mean that this is not used as a depth gauge? How can one measure something with it if one can only reference against one side only?
    Definitely intriguing! I suggest you re-post this on the Metalworking Forums; there is a wealth of knowledge regarding machinists oddments. I can’t make out the manufacturer’s details; if you do repost it would be a good idea to quote them.
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    Default Why Bother ????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dengue View Post
    ...My problem is reading this in inches on the top sliding scale in the pic.....

    No, not really. The problem is that you would want to read it in inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raffo View Post
    What confuses me is what can one measure with it. The main scale starts about 1/4" from the end of the bar. Does that mean that this is not used as a depth gauge? How can one measure something with it if one can only reference against one side only?
    The vernier graduations on the body also start about 1/4" from the edge, so when the end of the ruler bit is flush with the edge of the body it will read zero. I'd say it's almost definitely a depth gauge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    The vernier graduations on the body also start about 1/4" from the edge, so when the end of the ruler bit is flush with the edge of the body it will read zero. I'd say it's almost definitely a depth gauge.
    Yes, I eventually realized that that is how it works. Duh again.

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    I will make a new post here, I don't frequent machinists forums. I need to take a few new pictures later. I have a little bit of information about the inventor.

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    Default J. P. Ehrmann depth gauge

    Here's a better picture of my depth gauge. It's marked J. P. Ehrmann, Watervliet NY. I was only able to find his obituary from 1957. It says he patented this gauge but I was not able to find it under his name in the patent database. It's a remarkable tool, with a 1 mil precision, wasted on me since I don't work to high tolerances.
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    P.S. Apologies for hijacking the thread.

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