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11th December 2016, 01:45 PM #1
Need help identifying this saw maker
Got this saw today in a box of rust. The stamping reads, as far as I can make out, W. E.C. - - - - Y & Co. over Albany.
Unknown Albany saw 001.jpgUnknown Albany saw 002.jpg
Nicely done panel saw with a particularly nice handle and split nut screws.
Unknown Albany saw.jpgInnovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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11th December 2016, 02:13 PM #2Deceased
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Rob; does this help.
Stewie;
Albany Iron & Saw Works - Albany, NY
Albany Iron & Saw Works - Albany, NY
Albany Iron & Saw Works - History | VintageMachinery.org
https://books.google.com.au/books?id...0works&f=false
vintage albany saw works 30 in 1 or 2 man crosscut saw tool | eBay
http://hoxsie.org/2011/07/08/albany_iron_and_saw_works/
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11th December 2016, 02:23 PM #3
Stewie,
I'd looked at those links before posting. It's possible that W.B Gregory & Co. is the maker but the stamp on my saw looks like it doesn't have enough spaces between the letters I can see for 'Gregor' to fit if the letter spacing is consistent. I also haven't been able to find a picture of the stamp on the blade of another saw.
Thanks,
RobInnovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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11th December 2016, 02:54 PM #4Deceased
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Rob; have you come across this entry by Ray Gardiner;
OldTools Archive
Hi Dwight,
Repairing the screw, I would try silver solder first, if that doesn't
work just replace it.
The horn repair, I would go with, cutting a matching piece of wood, have
a look at Leif Hansens' site (finding the right link is a bit hard at
the moment, as the menu's have temporarily gone)
Restoring a Lost Cause - Part 1 | Norse Woodsmith
A quick look at the EAIA directory lists :
William B Gregory & Co Albany NY 1850 - 1857 Their plant was called the
"Albany Saw Manufactory"
The mark on your saw matches the EAIA description
W.B.GREGORY&CO/ALBANY/CAST STEEL WARRANTED (name line curved)
As others have said, that handle shape is beautiful, nice lines...
Regards Ray
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11th December 2016, 03:09 PM #5
Stewie,
I noticed that. I polished the stamped region some more and I think that the second letter is a B so it's likely that it is a W.B.Gregory. Given the production period I measured the thickness profile and the blade isn't tapered, consistent with my findings on the Disston saws of the same period. The blade on this saw is bent and has a big chunk missing at the toe. Otherwise it's in surprisingly good shape with only superficial oxidation and a couple of small spots of pitting. The blade is also pretty soft at HRC 42.5.
Thanks,
RobInnovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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11th December 2016, 09:25 PM #6
Rob
That handle looks very similar to this handle
Cheers Matt
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12th December 2016, 05:49 AM #7
Matt,
Further down the page in the link Stewie posted above is this:
"William B. Gregory, grandfather of him whose name introduces this
sketch, was a native of Yorkshire, England, as was also his wife, and
in England were also born their four children,=97three sons and one
daughter. The family moved to America in an early day, and the
grandparents passed the closing years of their lives in the Lower
Peninsula of Michigan. William B. Gregory, the grandfather, was a saw-
maker by trade and followed his trade for a number of years in Albany,
New York, whence he finally removed to Muskegon, Michigan, where he
engaged in the manufacturing of saws and other mechanical appliances
and where he continued to reside until his death, having been one of
the pioneer business men of that city."
I wouldn't per surprised if the handle on my saw is a cousin of the saw shown in your picture.
Compared to Disston handles of the same period the handle is pretty artisitic.
Here's the other side.
Unknown Albany saw 005.jpg
And the top and bottom showing the relatively elaborate shaping.
Unknown Albany saw 004.jpgUnknown Albany saw 003.jpg
Cheers,
RobInnovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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16th December 2016, 09:47 PM #8
I think it is hardly surprising that early American saws replicated the British saws. many of the saw makers had a British heritage (including Disston ) so they went with what they knew. Through time they evolved and developed their own style, but initially they unashamedly copied the British product.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
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13th March 2020, 11:13 PM #9New Members
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do you still have the w b gregory saw
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