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13th December 2019, 06:59 PM #1
Record 405 multiplane - slitting cutters - Do the Veritas spurs fit?
Hi all,
Ive an absolutely fantastic old Record 405 multi-plane that was given to me (by Homey! Brain, mate, awesome!).
I'm giving it a jolly good restore. Its looking great (the thread is here: Polishing Metal - Record 405 resto - questions on process )
The question! .... it came without the cutting/slitting spurs.... looking to get new ones and was wondering if the Veritas scoring spur replacements are a direct fit?
Does anyone know this kind of esoterica? It seems the Veritas blade-range fits, as it also does all the other makers of the period, but I cannot find any info on the spurs.
If anyone happens to know the answer, I'd be greatly appreciative.
This is the part:
- Lee Valley Tools
I've waited on eBay with a world wide search and well, nothing ever comes up for sale, other than full planes .... don't want TWO... do we
This is an image of the cutters and spur from another DDG search... its the bottom left pointy thing.
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13th December 2019, 09:26 PM #2
Hi Evan; I think you’ve got your parts mixed up, mate!
The Stanley/Record “spurs” or “nickers” are the 3-lobed things buried on the outer sides of the skates; I can clearly see them in photo 3 of the other post so you’ve got them. They are a bit of a PITA to use as they are fixed depth and need to be sharpened; and their purpose is to cut a knife wall in front of the main blade when cutting across the grain.
The “slitter” is the big pointy stabby thing you are indicating in the picture you pulled from online. That item lives on the same mounting point as the rear depth stop on the main body and is used as a method of roughly cutting off thin strips from the edge of a plank, you use it to deeply score each side and then snap it off. It is ground to a spear point on both sides, ie it has FOUR edges to grind/hone.
The Veritas nickers/spurs you are showing are their version of the Stanley/Record spurs and because they can be adjusted for depth they are much superior than the 3-lobed things. They look extremely similar to the Stanley/Record slitter, but are MUCH smaller and only ground on two edges, the backs are honed flat the same as a normal blade.
To be honest the slitter on the 405 is now a pretty useless item, it was designed for an era where there wouldn’t be a handy table saw available and slitting off a bit of Astrogal moulding, planing the back of it smooth and rejointing the edge of the plank it came off was quicker than cutting it off with a handsaw.
Do you have a copy of either the 405 manual or a Stanley 45 or 55 manual? The slitter and it’s uses are covered in them.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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13th December 2019, 10:22 PM #3
Excellent answer!
Excellent.
I have the manual, but not yet read it. Suppose I should
Thank you for saving me from a silly purchase!
(edit: manual read. Ignorance reduced! I wont be using that function as I already use my Keshiki for that)
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21st December 2019, 02:10 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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wP,
Doing a bit of cleaning up in the shed today. Look what I found:
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Don’t know whether the knurled knob belongs with the 405 but I’ll stick them both in the mail to you. Might not get to the PO for a few days, though.
Brian
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21st December 2019, 02:45 PM #5
YYYEEEESSSS!!!! You ripper!
Thank you sir!
I'm unsure if I've sung your generosity sufficiently, for I should.
This Record 405 is great.
All the blades are now sharp and the body parts de-rusted. I'm about to spray it up with a VERY trendy spray job in metal paints.
Im using my good spray gear, metal etchers and premium 2k auto paints. It should be schmicko
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21st December 2019, 09:41 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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There’s something very special about rescuing a tool, isn’t there? I like to invent back stories about who owned it, bought it as new, their pride of ownership of something gleaming and new fresh out of the box, their hopes, dreams and plans for its use........
I was just the conduit, you have all the kudos for the patience, hard work and persistence. Bless you, wP.
Brian
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21st December 2019, 10:53 PM #7
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22nd December 2019, 12:59 AM #8
Hehe. All dull blades occasionally need the strop to sharpen them up.
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1st January 2020, 01:19 AM #9
Homey, again thank you. Came in yesterday.
Spent 3 hours brightening it right up and making it razor sharp. Tricky little bugger... Hard to hold at a firm angle.
Not much progress on the resto. The unreal heat and intense smoke has put outside work off for a bit...
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