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9th July 2016, 02:59 PM #1Novice
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Record 5 1/2 repaint
Hi everybody,
I picked up this Record 5 1/2 in a box of mixed tools about 6 months ago and the time has finally come to restore it. It will be a user but ideally I would like to repaint it in a colour that is close to the original. I have restored a couple of Stanleys as users in the past using aerosol engine enamel, but I have limited experience using paints and am wondering what the best option is for trying to reproduce the blue. As you can see from the photos the blue appears to have changed colours in areas exposed to light. This is interesting as I have a No 8 record with similar paint and condition (although with less rust) and the colour of its blue is consistent throughout.
I have searched around the net regarding colour and there is at least one mention of using BS110 Roundel Blue stove enamel as a good match. Is it necessary to use stove enamel or would tinted epoxy enamel suffice? And if tint-able stove enamel is the preference does anyone know if there is a readily available option (Bunnings, Mitre 10 etc.). Does it need to be baked on to get an even finish? I am not really interested in spending a lot for paint from a custom paint supplier. Alternatively, is there an aerosol brand/colour that anyone knows of that is a close match? Is semi gloss preferred as with Stanleys?
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Thanks for your help.
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9th July 2016, 03:11 PM #2
We have a large automotive paint supply locally. They were (some time ago) going to install a machine that would fill aerosol paint of any colour. If you were to take a sample of the colour to a supplier they could give you exactly what you want. For such an application in painting the casting you would only need spraying enamel (thinner based). Alternatively most hardware paint departments will have a computerised paint matching service. The problem there is the minimum quantity they would tint for you would be a litre. If you do use the hardware paint department I would use full gloss enamel (turps based)
Just do it!
Kind regards Rod
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9th July 2016, 05:24 PM #3
I recently did up a record 41/2 for my brother in law and like you wanted to repaint it. I ended up using the Duplicolour Auto Touch up spray (purchased from SCA) in the 150g aerosol. This is an acrylic rather than an enamel but came up all right. The closest colour match was "Shockwave". There wasn't enough of the original paint anywhere on the plane to confirm how good a match it was though.
cheers
WHI don't suffer from stress, but I have been told I'm a carrier
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9th July 2016, 08:44 PM #4Senior Member
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I have to do a few planes soon and I'll be doing them all black because I am lazy but I will be using one of the VHT engine enamel paints because it is tough and gives a nice finish. I just bake the bits in the BBQ, tried it once in the house but good lord it smells so bad.
They will have a similar colour- VHT Engine Enamelâ„¢ -- High Heat Coating
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10th July 2016, 12:02 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Dupli-color do a Engine Enamel in Ford Dark Blue that is pretty close to the various shades of blue that Record used over the years.
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25th August 2016, 01:22 PM #6Novice
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I finally got around to painting the plane. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that the pictures will add a great deal of knowledge to the search for the perfect blue (which, admittedly has changed over the years) but here was my process.
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Furthest Killrust epoxy enamel in Roundel Blue
Above the tote: Killrust epoxy enamel in Roundel Blue with as much black tint added to it as it would take
Underneath the tote: A can of VHT Ford Dark Blue auto engine enamel (I have a feeling they may have given me the wrong can for the lid. There is nothing on the can to indicate the colour in the can. The colour is a far cry from the colour on the lid; it is very turquoise)
The tote and the paint on the frog are the original paint on the plane.
So from these options I chose to paint it in the darkened blue epoxy enamel. The results are below with a Record No 8, and a Record No 071 for reference. The No 8's paint has definitely been UV impacted. The colour on the 5 1/2 is still lighter than the original, and a little lighter than the No071 but it is close-ish.
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If I was doing it again I would probably go back to the auto store and check the colour of the spray can to see if it was truely Ford Dark Blue. While the result is reasonable I think I got a better result using engine enamel when I painted my Stanleys. The spray on engine enamel appears to be more scratch and chip resistant. It was also easier to apply and dried quicker. I had to have two goes at painting this. The first time I think I applied coats too quickly and it became foggy in appearance. I think the paint was slower to dry due to low winter temps and possibly the added tinting. So the second time around I thinned the paint a little and dried it in a warmer place.
Either way, I used it quite a bit over the weekend and it takes a nice shaving so I am happy.
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27th August 2016, 08:51 AM #7
There are two different Ford Blues. One light, one dark. As you say it looks like the wrong cap was put back on your can. It's most annoying when they don't put the colour code on the can itself .
Either way it's a nice job you've done bringing the plane back to life.
cheers
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27th August 2016, 01:28 PM #8Gatherer of rusty
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